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Bush's Presidency

How do You rate George W. Bush's Presidency?

  • He's The Best President We've Ever Had

    Votes: 3 3.7%

  • He Was One Of The Best

    Votes: 6 7.3%

  • He Was Pretty Good

    Votes: 8 9.8%

  • He's Alright

    Votes: 6 7.3%

  • He Was Kind Of Bad

    Votes: 13 15.9%

  • He Was One Of The Worst

    Votes: 35 42.7%

  • He Was The Worst

    Votes: 11 13.4%
  • Total voters
    82
wbreese91 said:
Except, it wasn't FDR as much as WWII that stopped the Great Depression. In fact, many historians argue that FDR's economic policies lengthened the Depression.
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But from what I've read, none of them deal with the impact of free trade which was something like 22% of the US economy. Ignoring that 400 lb gorilla doesn't suggest a strong argument.

Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act was enacted under Hoover. Not FDR. Without the capacity to export, it might not have mattered what FDR did.
 
obvious Child said:
But from what I've read, none of them deal with the impact of free trade which was something like 22% of the US economy. Ignoring that 400 lb gorilla doesn't suggest a strong argument.

Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act was enacted under Hoover. Not FDR. Without the capacity to export, it might not have mattered what FDR did.
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Please read the post right before this. Not trying to avoid debating with you, I just was slightly more positive on FDR and further explained my position. As for your comment here, you make a coulple good points but my focus was on some of FDR's more radical welfare reforms like the CCC and such.
 
Devil505 said:
I'll bet the Nazi's didn't admit to torture either. Both President Obama & the new Atty General call it ( Waterboarding) torture, but I guess you neocons know better.
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thats called playing politics.
 
Forty one people who answered this poll have their heads so far up their asses not even the jaws of life could save them.

So many, after the hate directed at President Bush, have an emotional need to claim he was one of the worst presidents just to justify their disdain for him in their minds.

Disdain and hatred that they know deep down was never justified.
 
Who are the morons who chose he was the best or one of the best? Wow. I know there are a few idiots in any group, but come on. Seriously.
 
Dayton3 said:
Forty one people who answered this poll have their heads so far up their asses not even the jaws of life could save them.

So many, after the hate directed at President Bush, have an emotional need to claim he was one of the worst presidents just to justify their disdain for him in their minds.

Disdain and hatred that they know deep down was never justified.
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here is an idea. Why don't we insult people who offer their opinions on a subject when asked? I bet that would be a great idea!
 
stekim said:
Who are the morons who chose he was the best or one of the best? Wow. I know there are a few idiots in any group, but come on. Seriously.
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I did it.....

Just to **** with people like you!
 
Scorpion89 said:
Wrong very Wrong but it seems all of you on the Left just can't get over Mr. Bush huh you guys need to come up with a new hobby
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I want a new hobby! :lol:
 
Redress said:
here is an idea. Why don't we insult people who offer their opinions on a subject when asked? I bet that would be a great idea!
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No.

Because if someone is seriously claiming that President Bush was

"one of the worst presidents"

or

"the worst president"

the United States has ever had. If they actually believe this then no amount of reasoned argument with them will be useful.

I can name at least THIRTEEN U.S. presidents that were undeniably worse than President Bush just off the top of my head.

Carter, Ford, Lyndon Johnson, Hoover, Coolidge, Harding, Wilson, Benjamin Harrisson, Grant, Andrew Johnson, Pierce, Buchanan, Van Buren

All worse than President Bush in either

1) National economic performance resulting from their policies

or

2) Death tolls in conflicts they led the U.S. into or were responsible in some way for starting.

By ANY objective standard, President Bush does not even register in the bottom 10 U.S. presidents

I voted him as one of the best. I don't know if he was. I won't be able to judge that until a few more years have passed.

But I knew the piling on by other people would be massive so I voted to counter that.
 
Thank you for your opinion. Now you want to keep being an asshole, or start respecting people who have other opinions?
 
Redress said:
Thank you for your opinion. Now you want to keep being an asshole, or start respecting people who have other opinions?
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Anything that claims that

"President Bush is one of the worst presidents ever"

or

"the worst president ever".

is not an opinion.

It is idiocy pure and simple.

Like saying

"The Detroit Lions of 2008 were a Super Bowl quality football team".

So staggeringly far from reality that it deserves no respect or regard.
 
Dayton3 said:
Anything that claims that

"President Bush is one of the worst presidents ever"

or

"the worst president ever".

is not an opinion.

It is idiocy pure and simple.

Like saying

"The Detroit Lions of 2008 were a Super Bowl quality football team".

So staggeringly far from reality that it deserves no respect or regard.
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Ah yes, qualitative measurements based on our own individual metrics are not opinion. That is even stupider than your earlier posts. Keep up the good job.
 
Redress said:
Ah yes, qualitative measurements based on our own individual metrics are not opinion. That is even stupider than your earlier posts. Keep up the good job.
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What is stupid is this thread in general.

How many times do we have to discuss Bush's presidency, ITS OVER!
 
Caine said:
What is stupid is this thread in general.

How many times do we have to discuss Bush's presidency, ITS OVER!
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Bush's tenure will be discussed as a major media topic until the next Republican president is elected, upon which time the media will become critical of the president.

That's how the American media works.

Never say anything bad abou the Democrats, never say anything good about the Republicans.

No matter how bad, how corrupt, how damaging, the last Democrat president was a savior, the last Republican was Satan.

Neither the media nor the leftist drones that vote for Democrats let anything as mundane as facts alter this process.
 
Caine said:
What is stupid is this thread in general.

How many times do we have to discuss Bush's presidency, ITS OVER!
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Heh, there is some truth to that.
 
Caine said:
I did it.....

Just to **** with people like you!
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Well that's totally acceptable. I can see that. Actually meaning it, however, would be a separate issue.
 
I have no problem with people discussing the Bush presidency. After all, it ended less than six months ago and many big events happened during it.

For that matter, in matters of foreign policy, President Obama is still following many Bush policies all or in part so the Bush presidency is certainly relevant.

But I will not treat seriously this bull about President Bush being the worst president of the U.S or one of the worst ever.

As I've pointed out, such "opinions" are idiocy in the extreme. Same with any Republicans or conservatives who say something similar about Bill Clinton.
 
Bush was easily one of the worst Presidents ever. Sorry. It's not my fault.
 
stekim said:
Bush was easily one of the worst Presidents ever. Sorry. It's not my fault.
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Really? Worse than John Tyler who was an adamant supporter of Slavery?


Worse than Warren G. Harding?



:lol:
 
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stekim said:
Bush was easily one of the worst Presidents ever. Sorry. It's not my fault.
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Yeah right.

And the Detroit Lions were a Super Bowl contender last year.

Utter rubbish.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Really? Worse than John Tyler who was an adamant supporter of Slavery?




:lol:
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George Washington had slaves, too. So did Thomas Jefferson. But let me repeat what I said because you seem to have misunderstood it. I'll highlight the relevant part in case English is not your native language or years of heavy drug use harmed your reading comprehension.

Bush was easily one of the worst Presidents ever. Sorry. It's not my fault.

I don't recall ranking him vis a vis Tyler or anyone else. Hope that helps.
 
Dayton3 said:
Yeah right.

And the Detroit Lions were a Super Bowl contender last year.

Utter rubbish.
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No. The Lions are the President Bush of football.
 
stekim said:
George Washington had slaves, too. So did Thomas Jefferson. But let me repeat what I said because you seem to have misunderstood it. I'll highlight the relevant part in case English is not your native language or years of heavy drug use harmed your reading comprehension.
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:lol: you don't want to play this game with the Good Reverend. You really don't, You are unarmed and I am an A-10. Act accordingly.


Bush was easily one of the worst Presidents ever. Sorry. It's not my fault.
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How so specifically. Please tell us.


maybe

Democratic Underground


or


Daily Kos: State of the Nation


Can feed you your talking points for you. :lol:



I don't recall ranking vis a vis Tyler or anyone else. Hope that helps.
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Helps what? Your peurile "Bush is a poopyhead" contention? Why not, lets compare presidents.


Grant anyone? :lol:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
:lol: you don't want to play this game with the Good Reverend. You really don't, You are unarmed and I am an A-10. Act accordingly.
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Bring it on, skippy.


Helps what? Your peurile "Bush is a poopyhead" contention? Why not, lets compare presidents.
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Again, drop the pipe and read what I actually wrote. I never said anything about him being a poopyhead. If you can only respond to posts never written this is going to get boring really fast. Like your sex life, no doubt.
 
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stekim said:
Bring it on, skippy.




Again, drop the pipe and read what I actually wrote. I never said anything about him being a poopyhead. If you can only respond to posts never written this is going to get boring really fast.
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You are right, you said vapidly that he was one of the worst ever. Nothing intellectual, nothing of value, just intellectually wanting "I hate bush" stupidity.



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