View Poll Results: How do You rate George W. Bush's Presidency?

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  • He's The Best President We've Ever Had

    5 4.55%
  • He Was One Of The Best

    7 6.36%
  • He Was Pretty Good

    8 7.27%
  • He's Alright

    9 8.18%
  • He Was Kind Of Bad

    14 12.73%
  • He Was One Of The Worst

    51 46.36%
  • He Was The Worst

    16 14.55%
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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Mediocre to good.
    So, your judgement is off.

    The words you're looking for are "top three".

    Good to know this.

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Tops the list. Work was plentiful, times where good. Weak on foreign policy, and some of his decisions created later problems, but overall, better than the rest.
    Ah, so in your world view, a convicted perjurer and proven rapist, who sold national security secrets to the Chinese for campaign cash, not to mention a huge list of other corrupt acts making him the most corrupt president in history, who squandered oppportunity presented by the post-Cold War boom to cut government expenditures, (which boom his presidency had nothing to do with), and all the other screw-up of the Clinton presidency, puts him at the "top of the list".

    Good to know this, too.

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Ah, so in your world view, a convicted perjurer and proven rapist, who sold national security secrets to the Chinese for campaign cash, not to mention a huge list of other corrupt acts making him the most corrupt president in history, who squandered oppportunity presented by the post-Cold War boom to cut government expenditures, (which boom his presidency had nothing to do with), and all the other screw-up of the Clinton presidency, puts him at the "top of the list".

    Good to know this, too.
    Are you talking about Clinton himself? Sounds like it, from the rapist thing, but not sure...
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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    I've no use for W over what transpired with regard to Iraq.
    Hi. TOGTFO.

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    I would actually put the blame on Hoover for increasing taxes to 90% when the depression started in his attempt to ballance the budget.


    FDR improved the situation, if only slightly, by getting a large federal defecit to put some more money into the economy after Hoover increased taxes to such a punitive level. Thank god Reagan reduced taxes to a sane level.

    And if you feel that WWII got us out of the Depression, then we must praise FDR for getting us ready into that war. His welfare spending is also simillar to the high amounts of spending that our country spent on WWII. So it is difficult to critisize one and not the other.


    Also, if we look at what programs FDR started that still exist today, those are mostly the suscesful programs. Things like SS, insurance transparency, Glass-steigal (which after was repealed set us up for this crisis) and insurance on bank deposits. Any faulty program that was created after him is not his fault.

    The problems we have today with large government mostly relate to other programs such as wasteful welfare or an inneficent medicare system. All that which FDR didn't invent.
    I mostly would agree with this. I think FDR was a great president. I disagree with some of his more extreme and uneffective measures like the CCC, not the ones that lasted. Most of the problems in the lasting organizations result from subsequent modification of those programs. However, I would attribute more success to wartime industry in taking us out of the depression than FDR's welfare spending (this was my previous point). I grant that FDR managed our war effort marvelously and that some of his programs kept us from getting deeper into depression until we got into WWII. I just disagree with some of his more radical moves as I said before, such as attempting to court pack.
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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by wbreese91 View Post
    Except, it wasn't FDR as much as WWII that stopped the Great Depression. In fact, many historians argue that FDR's economic policies lengthened the Depression.
    But from what I've read, none of them deal with the impact of free trade which was something like 22% of the US economy. Ignoring that 400 lb gorilla doesn't suggest a strong argument.

    Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act was enacted under Hoover. Not FDR. Without the capacity to export, it might not have mattered what FDR did.
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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    But from what I've read, none of them deal with the impact of free trade which was something like 22% of the US economy. Ignoring that 400 lb gorilla doesn't suggest a strong argument.

    Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act was enacted under Hoover. Not FDR. Without the capacity to export, it might not have mattered what FDR did.
    Please read the post right before this. Not trying to avoid debating with you, I just was slightly more positive on FDR and further explained my position. As for your comment here, you make a coulple good points but my focus was on some of FDR's more radical welfare reforms like the CCC and such.
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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I'll bet the Nazi's didn't admit to torture either. Both President Obama & the new Atty General call it ( Waterboarding) torture, but I guess you neocons know better.
    thats called playing politics.

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Forty one people who answered this poll have their heads so far up their asses not even the jaws of life could save them.

    So many, after the hate directed at President Bush, have an emotional need to claim he was one of the worst presidents just to justify their disdain for him in their minds.

    Disdain and hatred that they know deep down was never justified.

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Who are the morons who chose he was the best or one of the best? Wow. I know there are a few idiots in any group, but come on. Seriously.
    Wow. Am I awesome or what?

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