View Poll Results: How do You rate George W. Bush's Presidency?

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  • He's The Best President We've Ever Had

    5 4.55%
  • He Was One Of The Best

    7 6.36%
  • He Was Pretty Good

    8 7.27%
  • He's Alright

    9 8.18%
  • He Was Kind Of Bad

    14 12.73%
  • He Was One Of The Worst

    51 46.36%
  • He Was The Worst

    16 14.55%
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Thread: Bush's Presidency

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    Actually, most Presidents had deficit spending. Reagan simply took it to a whole new level. See? Numbers don't lie.
    You mean Reagan had to repair the damage to the military Carter incurred.

    So one first must figure out how much The Idiot should have been spending to maintain the military, subtract that amount from The Great One's deficit and add it onto The Idiot's deficit where it belongs.

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    I love how you protect the writers of bloated budgets when they are "your" guys. It's pathetic, but cute in its own way.

    I love the way you're adamantly refusing to understand what happened before you were born.

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    Where does it say defense is "first"?
    Right there where it says Congress can only spend money on specific areas, in Article 1, Section 8.

    The military is listed, the entitlements and socialist nonsense is not allowed at all.

    The Tenth Amendment states that if the Constitution doesn't specifically allow the Congress to do something, that something is reserved to the states. Ergo, the socialist spending is a state responsiblity, not a federal one, and all federal spending in those areas are both illegal and clearly secondary to those allowed expenditures.

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    And if the other spending is not allowed I suggest you sue.
    This is what you use instead of logic?

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    If you want to get technical, the 10th amendment effectively died with the American Civil War.

    The Civil War basically wrote in blood no less the complete superiority of the federal govt. over the states.

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by wbreese91 View Post
    The Constitution allows Congress to pass laws to "promote the general welfare."
    No. The Article 1, Section 8 grants Congress specific powers to promote the general welfare.

    The Congress in limited by law (the Constitution) in it's fields of interference.


    Quote Originally Posted by wbreese91 View Post
    This is a rather obscure phrase,
    Not for you, not any more. I just fixed up what you didn't understand about it.

    You can say thanks if you have manners.

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    True, but remember that Clinton was following the same path blazed by Reagan and expanded by Bush HW. The detractors of Clinton tend to ignore that it was Reagan who started gutting the military.
    Substantiation?

    Quote Originally Posted by wbreese91 View Post
    Furthermore, remember at the time, our military was geared towards fighting a conventional war against Soviet forces. That threat disappeared in 1991. It makes little sense to keep funding a large force designed to fight an enemy that no longer exists.
    Interesting. Under The Rapist President the Left steadfastly refused to fund ABM technology citing the ABM treaty. A treaty with a nation that no longer existed. Thus the nation lost a full eight years of R&D time, because the Left had no interest in defending the evil United States.

    I certainly will not argue that post-Cold War military spending should have decreased.

    Post Cold War spending was decreased, with The Oath Breaking President submitting a plan of rational draw-downs that did not conflict with national security. The Rapist President went beyond that, also, much of the Rapist Presidency was spent wasting time and money invading Haiti and Yugoland and bombing camel butts in Afghanland (okay, that one didn't cost much, but it highlights his complete ignorance of military effectiveness).

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    If you want to get technical, the 10th amendment effectively died with the American Civil War.

    The Civil War basically wrote in blood no less the complete superiority of the federal govt. over the states.
    If you want to get technical, the Constitution before the bill of rights limited the power of the Congress. The Tenth Amendment merely made totally explicit what was already clearly implicit in Section 8 of Article 1.

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Russia has the 1st with regards to amount of nukes
    The USA is 2nd with regards to amount of nukes
    France is 3rd with regards to amount of nukes
    China has the 4th with regards to amount of nukes


    The USA spends 48% of the World's Military Spending
    China spends 8% of the World's Military Spending
    Russia spends 5% of the World's Military Spending
    Thanks for making my point for me. I appreciate it! None of those countries is unable to defend itself, nor have any of them been invaded since WWII for that very reason (and they defended themselves in WWII). And yet they can do it far more cheaply. Thanks for helping out there. Good to have you onboard.

    Now, can they defend their countries just as effectively as we can? You didn't prove it at all... at best it is a hypothetical.
    No it's not. You can either defend your country or you cannot.
    And it's patently clear both countries can do that. Unless you would like to explain who could take them over, knowing NO ONE has ever done so from outside. Worst case? Mutual destruction. But we lose there, too. So technically, we cannot even defend oursleves for $266 billion should they decide to end us. But yes, you are right. Unless we spend endless amounts of Chinese money to pay for big guns we are doomed. No one else needs to do that to be safe. Just us. No, we're not stupid at all.....
    Wow. Am I awesome or what?

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    Thanks for making my point for me. I appreciate it! None of those countries is unable to defend itself, nor have any of them been invaded since WWII for that very reason (and they defended themselves in WWII). And yet they can do it far more cheaply. Thanks for helping out there. Good to have you onboard.
    Do you think that I was trying to disprove you, or something? Dude, get over yourself, it is lame. I am posting facts, nothing more and the facts tell the truth, regardless of whoever is stating what.


    No it's not. You can either defend your country or you cannot.
    And it's patently clear both countries can do that. Unless you would like to explain who could take them over, knowing NO ONE has ever done so from outside. Worst case? Mutual destruction. But we lose there, too. So technically, we cannot even defend oursleves for $266 billion should they decide to end us. But yes, you are right. Unless we spend endless amounts of Chinese money to pay for big guns we are doomed. No one else needs to do that to be safe. Just us. No, we're not stupid at all.....
    Since WWII has anybody tried to invade Russia, the USA, France or China? Nope, then it is a hypothetical. Sorry, it simply is so...
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You mean Reagan had to repair the damage to the military Carter incurred.

    So one first must figure out how much The Idiot should have been spending to maintain the military, subtract that amount from The Great One's deficit and add it onto The Idiot's deficit where it belongs.




    I love the way you're adamantly refusing to understand what happened before you were born.
    I can give Reagan alot of slack for that, but he still shouldn't have cut taxes so much because of the huge defecit.

    A tax cut was NEEDED because of the insane tax increases under Hoover (and no other president besides Reagan seemed to see that it was a problem) but there should of been slightly less tax cuts under Reagan.

    But since I don't know where to draw the line, Reagan's fiscal policy was acceptable

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    Re: Bush's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Substantiation?
    Man, this should be common knowledge.

    More Military Bases Need to Be Closed

    Base closures were one of the major areas of reducing the military.

    People tend to view just the first term and early second term of Reagan. They ignore how in the later part of his second term he started reducing the military and raising taxes.

    SecDef Histories - Richard Cheney

    Cheney wanted to cut the B-2.

    HW continued Reagan's military cuts.

    George H. W. Bush - MSN Encarta

    Clinton didn't come up with the military reduction idea. In fact he's kind of lame in that he just followed Reagan and Bush HW.

    Please format your posts in rational, cohesive statements that intellectually honest people won't reject.
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