View Poll Results: Read below

Voters
47. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes I am scared

    9 19.15%
  • These developments give me pause

    9 19.15%
  • nope, not worried.

    24 51.06%
  • I hate freedom and love a police state.

    5 10.64%
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 28

Thread: Are you scared?

  1. #1
    Advisor kamino's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Silverdale, Wa.
    Last Seen
    03-26-10 @ 01:08 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    320

    Are you scared?

    With all the stuff that is happening, Obama grabbing power, the nationalization of business, the allowance of Acorn to take money from the fed that has just passed the house, the Fair speech act, the massive spending, the expansion of government, the appointment of czars who have no congressional oversight, the desire to build a civilian military equally as powerfull, trained and armed as the U.S. Military and all the other stuff that is going on in our government, does it make you scared or at least give you pause to the possibility that our way of life, that freedom and property are on the verge of extinction?
    Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
    -Benjamin Franklin

  2. #2
    Liberal Fascist For Life!

    Redress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:43 AM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    86,412
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Are you scared?

    You need to clarify a bunch of those.

    Does Fair Speech Act = Fairness Doctrine?

    How is ACORN taking money from the Fed? I cannot find anything on it.

    Which Czars?

    What civilian military?

    You make a lot of claims, but do not source any of them, and some are pretty far out.

  3. #3
    Professor
    Baralis's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    MO
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:34 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    2,241
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Are you scared?

    I guess my answer could be misinterpreted. Being scared and believing that the recent changes may lead us down an undersirable path, are in my case, two different things.

  4. #4
    Advisor kamino's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Silverdale, Wa.
    Last Seen
    03-26-10 @ 01:08 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    320

    Re: Are you scared?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You need to clarify a bunch of those.

    Does Fair Speech Act = Fairness Doctrine?

    How is ACORN taking money from the Fed? I cannot find anything on it.

    Which Czars?

    What civilian military?

    You make a lot of claims, but do not source any of them, and some are pretty far out.
    Yes I appoligize, I mean the fairness doctrine.

    Acorn
    The American Spectator : ACORN's Stimulus

    Are you serious you have not heard of Obamas czars?!
    Byrd Calls Obama's Czars Dangerous | Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    Robert Byrd, the longest serving senator in history, criticized President Obama's appointment of numerous White House advisors, also called "czars," saying the presence of the czars gives the president too much power.

    These czars report directly to Mr. Obama and have the power to shape national policy on their subject area. So far, Mr. Obama has recruited czars on health reform, urban affairs policy, and energy and climate change. Unlike Cabinet secretaries, they do not have to be approved by Congress.

    In a letter to Obama on Wednesday, Byrd, a Democrat, said that the czar system "can threaten the Constitutional system of checks and balances," Politico reported. Byrd added that oversight of federal agencies is the responsibility of officials approved by the Senate.

    "As presidential assistants and advisers, these White House staffers are not accountable for their actions to the Congress, to cabinet officials, or to virtually anyone but the president," Byrd wrote. "They rarely testify before congressional committees, and often shield the information and decision-making process behind the assertion of executive privilege. In too many instances, White House staff have been allowed to inhibit openness and transparency, and reduce accountability."

    Byrd has been a longtime critic of policies that concentrate power in the executive branch. He often fought with the Bush Administration and Wednesday's letter shows that he doesn't mind going after a president from his own party.

    These days, however, Byrdís comments have less force as he is no longer the chairman of the powerful Senate Appropriations Committee.


    Civilian Military
    Illinois Review: Obama's civilian national security force

    American Thinker: Obama's Civilian National Security Force
    Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
    -Benjamin Franklin

  5. #5
    Liberal Fascist For Life!

    Redress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:43 AM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    86,412
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Are you scared?

    Well, alot of things to go over.

    Fairness doctrine: Not coming back. Source: FactCheck.org: Is the fairness doctrine coming back, and would it shut down conservative talk radio?

    And last month, an Obama spokesman told FoxNews.com that the president wasn't interested in reviving the fairness doctrine. "As the president stated during the campaign, he does not believe the Fairness Doctrine should be reinstated," spokesman Ben LaBolt told the Web site.
    Note that factcheck is the best place to start with any claim, it is nonpartisan and well researched.

    Acorn: hey, factcheck to the rescue again: FactCheck.org: Does the stimulus bill include a $5.2 billion payoff for ACORN?

    The bill does include funds for which ACORN would be eligible to compete - against hundreds of other groups. But most is for a housing rehabilitation program ACORN says it never applied for in the past and won't in the future.
    I did not say I had not heard of Czars, I asked which you don't like. What powers do they have you disapprove of?

    Civilian military: Both your sources are from pre-election. No evidence I can find that President Obama has moved on them. Factcheck does have some information on the topic though: FactCheck.org: Is Obama planning a Gestapo-like "civilian national security force"?

    Summary, the quotes are out of context. He was talking about expanding the Peace Corps and similar groups.

  6. #6
    Advisor kamino's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Silverdale, Wa.
    Last Seen
    03-26-10 @ 01:08 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    320

    Re: Are you scared?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well, alot of things to go over.

    Fairness doctrine: Not coming back. Source: FactCheck.org: Is the fairness doctrine coming back, and would it shut down conservative talk radio?



    Note that factcheck is the best place to start with any claim, it is nonpartisan and well researched.



    Acorn: hey, factcheck to the rescue again: FactCheck.org: Does the stimulus bill include a $5.2 billion payoff for ACORN?



    I did not say I had not heard of Czars, I asked which you don't like. What powers do they have you disapprove of?

    Civilian military: Both your sources are from pre-election. No evidence I can find that President Obama has moved on them. Factcheck does have some information on the topic though: FactCheck.org: Is Obama planning a Gestapo-like "civilian national security force"?

    Summary, the quotes are out of context. He was talking about expanding the Peace Corps and similar groups.
    about the fairness doctrine, well well see but I have my doubts, sorry dont trust government.

    About the stimulus and Acorn I will read the bill my self just to make sure.

    about the czars, I dont like any of them, there is no federal oversight like there is whit the cabnet members. The czars answer only to Obama.

    about his private military, ok I hope nothing happens, still worried though. But why would the peace corp need to be just as well trained and equiped as the U.S. military?

    And lastly, my appoligizes, I have been listening to too much conservative radio, do you know any good liberal stations I can watch so I too can be re-educated/indoctrinated?
    Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
    -Benjamin Franklin

  7. #7
    Liberal Fascist For Life!

    Redress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:43 AM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    86,412
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Are you scared?

    Quote Originally Posted by kamino View Post
    about the fairness doctrine, well well see but I have my doubts, sorry dont trust government.

    About the stimulus and Acorn I will read the bill my self just to make sure.

    about the czars, I dont like any of them, there is no federal oversight like there is whit the cabnet members. The czars answer only to Obama.

    about his private military, ok I hope nothing happens, still worried though. But why would the peace corp need to be just as well trained and equiped as the U.S. military?

    And lastly, my appoligizes, I have been listening to too much conservative radio, do you know any good liberal stations I can watch so I too can be re-educated/indoctrinated?
    Avoid both. Try PBS, the Lehrer news hour is awesome. Factcheck.org is a wonderful resource as well, they debunk myths almost daily.

  8. #8
    Professor
    Baralis's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    MO
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:34 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    2,241
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Are you scared?

    Just wanted to add. Right now we do not know how much federal funds are going to Acorn. The mailing address for acorn has over 200 other entities listed at that address. Many fear that federal funds will be given to many of these other entities, which in turn could end up in acorns hands.

  9. #9
    Liberal Fascist For Life!

    Redress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:43 AM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    86,412
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Are you scared?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Just wanted to add. Right now we do not know how much federal funds are going to Acorn. The mailing address for acorn has over 200 other entities listed at that address. Many fear that federal funds will be given to many of these other entities, which in turn could end up in acorns hands.
    This has already been adressed:

    Lewis: We have not received neighborhood stabilization funds, have no plans to apply for such funds, and didn't weigh in on the pending rule changes.
    ACORN has never applied for the funds, has no plans to apply for the funds, and would be highly unlikely to get them if they did. There is NO evidence that ACORN got penny one from the stimulus package.

  10. #10
    King of Videos
    dirtpoorchris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    WA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:21 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    6,554

    Re: Are you scared?

    Being scared does nothing.
    Is society was made of coral our world would be floral.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •