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Limits to Private Arsenals

Which should be legal for average citizens to own and use?

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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I agree the definition is retarted in the sense of US law. But thems the facts. However, the initial definition calls for a magazine or belt. I also answered your snide question about a Steyr, putting you in your rightful place.
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Only on the basis of the dumb machine gun definition. Changing a part that is defined as a machinegun makes it a machine gun. You did not explain to actually turn a bullpit rifle into what is commonly believed to be a machine gun, something belt fed. I actually specifically picked that because turning a bullpit into a belt fed requires massive engineering.

As for the Economics forum. Most of that crap bores me. This is why I have a staff of accountants for both my business and personal. I am far to rich to count my own money. I have "the help" do it. Anyway, I am in there time to time, But I don't start dumb threads that demonstrate a fundamental ignorance on a topic simply to get off on some hoplophobic hard-on. :lol::2wave:
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Actually the point of the thread was to see who thought that the average citizen should be allowed to have VX, Ebola and Nuclear weapons. You should look up the discussion with Voidwar. He thinks that the average citizen should be allowed to have those three. You assume too much. And I seriously doubt you have your own business. But that's neither here nor there.
 
Dav said:
One of the things about belonging to a political forum is, the people there seem so obsessed with politics they subscribe to ideologies rather than common sense.

Common sense is, there is no reason to let people own anything more powerful than a handgun or a rifle. Nuclear weapons are not required for self-defense and putting them in the hands of anyone who wants them creates a threat to humanity.
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Anything that civilian police or federal agents routinely have in their armories should be the baseline from which we start the debate

That means OTHER citizens clearly should be able to own

semi auto handguns

"sniper rifles"--ie Centerfire rifles of 50BMG caliber or smaller

select fire carbines

submachine guns

semi auto shotguns

various governmental units have already admitted such firearms are suitable for defensive use by civilian employees of the state or city in urban environments.
 
Jerry said:
Could you give an example of a peace-weapon?
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obvious Child said:
Only on the basis of the dumb machine gun definition. Changing a part that is defined as a machinegun makes it a machine gun. You did not explain to actually turn a bullpit rifle into what is commonly believed to be a machine gun, something belt fed. I actually specifically picked that because turning a bullpit into a belt fed requires massive engineering.
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If I change a few small parts in any ar-15 type carbine, When I put my booger hook on the bang switch it will fire full auto.


This is why those parts in todays world are considered the same as having a "machine gun" or a NFA restricted weapon.


Actually the point of the thread was to see who thought that the average citizen should be allowed to have VX, Ebola and Nuclear weapons. You should look up the discussion with Voidwar. He thinks that the average citizen should be allowed to have those three. You assume too much.
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Then why did you add al the ambiguous and ignorance revealing options?


And I seriously doubt you have your own business. But that's neither here nor there.
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Go ask Lerxst, I think he can verify, as could several other posters. Yes, in the Good Reverend's world, you would be the help :2wave: :lol:
 
Redress said:
You made those terms up!
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Common knowledge out her on the West Coast... in fact, we probably made those terms up, since it is also common knowledge that they East Coast is filled with a bunch of hosers...
 
Bodhisattva said:
Common knowledge out her on the West Coast... in fact, we probably made those terms up, since it is also common knowledge that they East Coast is filled with a bunch of hosers...
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So you are from BC making fun of people from New brunswick, eh? :2razz::confused:
 
I'm completely in favor of people owning handguns and rifles for recreation or defense purposes, but nobody needs to plant mines in their front yard to ward off would-be trespassers.

I don't understand why anyone would want a jet, or missle launcher, or any other "heavy" weaponry other than to feed the fantasy of actually being able to fight the government by force if it ever turned totalitarian.
 
Badgered Mushroom said:
I'm completely in favor of people owning handguns and rifles for recreation or defense purposes, but nobody needs to plant mines in their front yard to ward off would-be trespassers.

I don't understand why anyone would want a jet, or missle launcher, or any other "heavy" weaponry other than to feed the fantasy of actually being able to fight the government by force if it ever turned totalitarian.
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Well of course the weapons would be desired by someone who thought they needed to take out those kinds of threats.

For the sake of the argument, let's take the Javelin for example. Can you think of a scenario where a private person would want to have that accessible?
 
Jerry said:
Well of course the weapons would be desired by someone who thought they needed to take out those kinds of threats.

For the sake of the argument, let's take the Javelin for example. Can you think of a scenario where a private person would want to have that accessible?
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No reason that would be sane in my opinion aside from target practice on a decrepit car or other large object. Who doesn't like to see stuff blow up?

Being in Texas, I hear a lot of talk here when I go out to eat about the government trying to take guns in order to control the public through military force. This is the only reason I can muster for someone to actually want an anti-armour missile system. The thought that a few rogue civilians can actually fight against the United States military is a pipe dream.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
If I change a few small parts in any ar-15 type carbine, When I put my booger hook on the bang switch it will fire full auto.


This is why those parts in todays world are considered the same as having a "machine gun" or a NFA restricted weapon.
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One must wonder if you know what a bullpit is.

Then why did you add al the ambiguous and ignorance revealing options?
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Poor wording. Besides, as pointed out, the first three were really the actual issue. And it served its point as Voidwar admitted that owning all three should be legal for the average private citizen. Do you agree with that? That the average citizen should be able to have nerve agents, nuclear weapons and biological weapons?

Go ask Lerxst, I think he can verify, as could several other posters. Yes, in the Good Reverend's world, you would be the help :2wave: :lol:
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Sure you do. Given you sheer and utter incompetence in all of the financial and business threads, I highly doubt you do. Or maybe you just don't have a clue how your own business is run?
 
obvious Child said:
One must wonder if you know what a bullpit is.
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:lol: do you mean a [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullpup]Bullpup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]... or are you referencing some stock traders macho izing of their little trading floor, what's that called again that stock market trading floor, bullpen? :lol:


Seriously this is rather silly, you would be fine entertainment at our local pub.... :lol:


Poor wording. Besides, as pointed out, the first three were really the actual issue. And it served its point as Voidwar admitted that owning all three should be legal for the average private citizen. Do you agree with that? That the average citizen should be able to have nerve agents, nuclear weapons and biological weapons?
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I am more interested in hearing you talk about personal weapons platforms, its been quite entertaining thus far. :lol:




Sure you do. Given you sheer and utter incompetence in all of the financial and business threads, I highly doubt you do. Or maybe you just don't have a clue how your own business is run?
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Please quote my "utter and incompetemnce in all of the financial threads" or stop your peurile lying. you look foolish. :2wave:
 
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If the intent of the second amendment is to prepare the populace to overthrow the government, then you are going to need all of those weapons. I'm sure the NRA would agree.
 
Redress said:
Going back to this....you did make those terms up, right?
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Nah, We use it in training. When you have new shooters doing CQB it helps em remember to keep thier finger off the trigger......


Its pretty old i think. ;)
 
WillRockwell said:
If the intent of the second amendment is to prepare the populace to overthrow the government, then you are going to need all of those weapons. I'm sure the NRA would agree.
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This is not the intent. :roll:

It was for defense of the country, states and our rights if threatened. Hence the "well regulated militia" part.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Nah, We use it in training. When you have new shooters doing CQB it helps em remember to keep thier finger off the trigger......


Its pretty old i think. ;)
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Oh, ok, I understand now.
 
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