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  • Nuclear Weapons

    6 10.00%
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    57 95.00%
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Thread: Limits to Private Arsenals

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Hell even Mongolia has Harriers.
    I want a harrier. I have always wondered why Harriers did not have more of a FOD problem though.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    I really don't see the point to weapons like tanks, planes, nukes and biological weapons being owned by private citizens.

    And this goes beyond what the second amendment says, I am talking about what makes sense, and not simply what our Constitution says. Those are two different issues.


    The point of the second amendment is to allow people to have weapons to defend themselves (from criminals or the government) and for hunting. You don't need nukes for any of that unless you want to destroy the country that you are rebelling from.

    And if there is a strong enough force to rebell with, then it wouldn't depend on having anti-tank missles or not.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I want a harrier. I have always wondered why Harriers did not have more of a FOD problem though.
    They have a special cover hatch build into the nozzel section when the USMC first got the A models and were having all sort of problems with them killing quite a few pilots one of the reason was FOD it BAE/RR had to go back and redesign the engine intacts.

    If you want a Harrier their is a MarkII for sale it's sitting in Reno you would need to have the engine's rebuild.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    I really don't see the point to weapons like tanks, planes, nukes and biological weapons being owned by private citizens.
    Of this list Nukes and Bio you can't get. As for Tanks,and Plane's have you every been to an Airshow or a Parade that has Military Vehicle in them. We who do this as a hobby are collectors. I own two WWII trainers to me I see it as my duty to educate the next generation of are collective past.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Speaking of BAE, their avionics system guys are seriously on a different level of thinking. I troubleshot some serious ATARS datalinking issues out at Yuma with them. They were all worried about oscilation frequencies and all this other garbage, and I am telling them its probably just a wire somewhere. Turns out I was right, because somebody years ago had signed off on the installation of a wiring bundle, and never actually installed it. Once we got the bundle in, miracle of miracles, it worked.
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Of this list Nukes and Bio you can't get. As for Tanks,and Plane's have you every been to an Airshow or a Parade that has Military Vehicle in them. We who do this as a hobby are collectors. I own two WWII trainers to me I see it as my duty to educate the next generation of are collective past.
    There are alot of people that own old military craft. They fly them into the EAA show in Oshkosh/Fon du Lac, WI every year. But they don't have any bombs with them
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Speaking of BAE, their avionics system guys are seriously on a different level of thinking. I troubleshot some serious ATARS datalinking issues out at Yuma with them. They were all worried about oscilation frequencies and all this other garbage, and I am telling them its probably just a wire somewhere. Turns out I was right, because somebody years ago had signed off on the installation of a wiring bundle, and never actually installed it. Once we got the bundle in, miracle of miracles, it worked.
    Ha Ha that is rich yea I've heard they can be real big arse.


    Hey Crippler anymore thoughts about having a Military Section most of this thread has been about the Military.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Ha Ha that is rich yea I've heard they can be real big arse.


    Hey Crippler anymore thoughts about having a Military Section most of this thread has been about the Military.
    I'll throw it out to vauge. See what he says.
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I'll throw it out to vauge. See what he says.
    Thanks so far it's been a fun discussion, if I can find the link on the Harrier I'll post it. There guy in either Maryland or Virgina who has the only operating private Harrier. Let me do a quick search and if I can fidn the link I'll post it here.

    Here you go Crippler,

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P79cKX3EFgo&feature=related[/ame]
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    I think people should be able to have any weapon that a "normal soldier" would have and by that I just mean basically all types of guns, and nothing more.

    So thats no nuclear weapons, anti-tank missles or deadly bioweapons. Just normal firearms.
    Apparently you have never been a infantry unit, I have and soldiers especially in a mechanized infantry units do use anti-tank weapons such AT4 and the FGM-148 Javelin. Before those weapons there was the LAW, Bazooka, dragoon and various other anti-tank weapons.
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