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Thread: Limits to Private Arsenals

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Actually Redress I do know how quickly Military Avionics go South. As for parts as I said you can get pretty much anything for Soviet block Airframe's and hell most of the Western Build stuff say up to 1978.

    I know a guy who is rebuilding an A-6B and yes he has all of the Avionics including the Norden AN/APQ-148,AN/ASN-92 inertial navigation system and CAINS (Carrier Aircraft Intertial Navigation System) he is rebuilding it to a Iron Hand Bird.
    APQ is radar? If so, I find the claim highly unlikely.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The ALR in my barn is illegal?

    I don't think Scorpian understands how quickly military avionics goes bad, and how impossible it would be to keep up with keeping such a jet in parts would be.

    Note, before the secret service breaks down my door: The first sentence was a joke, and a lame one at that.
    And the avionics is the 'spensive stuff too. Even if its unclassified, a radar antenna is not cheap to replace or repair. Considering the length of time a part can spend in NRFI status, without a robust supply chain, you've effectively downgraded the capability of the aircraft with the loss of one, non-classified aircraft part. Then there are the systems software upgrades. Where will you get those from? Somebody who buys a vintage military aircraft, is going to be so far behind the curve of what active military aircraft are capable of, there's nothing to worry about.
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    And the avionics is the 'spensive stuff too. Even if its unclassified, a radar antenna is not cheap to replace or repair. Considering the length of time a part can spend in NRFI status, without a robust supply chain, you've effectively downgraded the capability of the aircraft with the loss of one, non-classified aircraft part. Then there are the systems software upgrades. Where will you get those from? Somebody who buys a vintage military aircraft, is going to be so far behind the curve of what active military aircraft are capable of, there's nothing to worry about.
    Without a handy AIMD, you are not going to keep yourself in avionics, period.

    I so miss using military jargon...

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Without a handy AIMD, you are not going to keep yourself in avionics, period.

    I so miss using military jargon...
    What you don't think their are Civilian AIMD out their hell Honeywell you can get all of your ex-military stuf rerubished. I take it neither of you have been to out to AMRAC when they have the big sales, Most Avionic stuff you canget for a song and a dance.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    And the avionics is the 'spensive stuff too. Even if its unclassified, a radar antenna is not cheap to replace or repair. Considering the length of time a part can spend in NRFI status, without a robust supply chain, you've effectively downgraded the capability of the aircraft with the loss of one, non-classified aircraft part. Then there are the systems software upgrades. Where will you get those from? Somebody who buys a vintage military aircraft, is going to be so far behind the curve of what active military aircraft are capable of, there's nothing to worry about.
    Software is out there and can be purchase rather easily, as for avionics expensive yes and no depending on what your looking for. Soviet stuff rather cheap Western Stuff once again depends on what your looking for.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Software is out there and can be purchase rather easily, as for avionics expensive yes and no depending on what your looking for. Soviet stuff rather cheap Western Stuff once again depends on what your looking for.
    I think you will need to prove this before I would even consider believing it.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think you will need to prove this before I would even consider believing it.
    What would you like don't forget most if not all US builded Military Jets prior to 1976 had very limited computer software. The first true computer controlled aircraft in the US Military was the F-16 and F-15. Yes the F-14s and later version of the A-6 had some computer stuff but it wasn't till the F-16,F-15,F-18 came along that aircraft started having more computer systems in them.

    As for Soviet stuff it wasn't till the later version of the Mig25,Mig21,Su23.

    PS: this is why we need a Military Section
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Really would you like me to name you the three Aircraft factorys for you and what each one does.

    It is a well know fact that the Romania's build the best of the Mig21 serious.
    Sure. It's not going to change the fact that Romania is Europe's only third world country.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Sure. It's not going to change the fact that Romania is Europe's only third world country.
    Really and when was the last time you've been to Romania and you do understand that Sibiu was chosen to be European Capital of Culture in 2007.

    Also Romania is consider an upper-middle income country and is one of the few post Soviet Counties to not have any major uprising andis a very nice place to visit.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Sure. It's not going to change the fact that Romania is Europe's only third world country.
    Hell even Mongolia has Harriers.
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