View Poll Results: Which should be legal for average citizens to own and use?

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  • VX

    10 16.67%
  • Aersol Ebola

    9 15.00%
  • Nuclear Weapons

    6 10.00%
  • Jet Fighters with full munitions

    20 33.33%
  • Claymores and Mines

    29 48.33%
  • Anti-Armor Missiles

    27 45.00%
  • Machine Guns

    40 66.67%
  • Handguns

    57 95.00%
  • Automatic Rifles

    49 81.67%
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Thread: Limits to Private Arsenals

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I agree the definition is retarted in the sense of US law. But thems the facts. However, the initial definition calls for a magazine or belt. I also answered your snide question about a Steyr, putting you in your rightful place.



    As for the Economics forum. Most of that crap bores me. This is why I have a staff of accountants for both my business and personal. I am far to rich to count my own money. I have "the help" do it. Anyway, I am in there time to time, But I don't start dumb threads that demonstrate a fundamental ignorance on a topic simply to get off on some hoplophobic hard-on.
    Do you agree with this definition?
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058076561 (Limits to Private Arsenals)
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    So in a discussion with a nameless handle, he agreed that the average citizen should have the legal right to own any and all kinds of armaments. I'd like to see just what the rest of the forum agrees should be legal and what the rest of you people think about the list.
    I'm against every kind of war weapons in privat property.
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfons View Post
    I'm against every kind of war weapons in privat property.
    Could you give an example of a peace-weapon?

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Could you give an example of a peace-weapon?
    Bubble gum.

    Ya can't have a riot if everyone is busy scraping bubble gum off their shoes, right?

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Not true at all. They have fully automatic shotguns and rifles as well. You are like most legislators confusing function with style
    Not what I said. You just talked about general accepted definitions.

    The law for rifles and shotguns doesn't have the same kind of dumb writing.

    (d) Shotgun
    The term “shotgun” means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of projectiles (ball shot) or a single projectile for each pull of the trigger, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire a fixed shotgun shell.
    Notice the legal definition is just entire weapon. Not individual parts.

    (c) Rifle
    The term “rifle” means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge.
    No individual parts writing either.

    But for machinegun, we see clear specific writings calling mere parts a machinegun. Making the trigger of a machinegun a machinegun by legal definition.
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I agree the definition is retarted in the sense of US law. But thems the facts. However, the initial definition calls for a magazine or belt. I also answered your snide question about a Steyr, putting you in your rightful place.
    Only on the basis of the dumb machine gun definition. Changing a part that is defined as a machinegun makes it a machine gun. You did not explain to actually turn a bullpit rifle into what is commonly believed to be a machine gun, something belt fed. I actually specifically picked that because turning a bullpit into a belt fed requires massive engineering.

    As for the Economics forum. Most of that crap bores me. This is why I have a staff of accountants for both my business and personal. I am far to rich to count my own money. I have "the help" do it. Anyway, I am in there time to time, But I don't start dumb threads that demonstrate a fundamental ignorance on a topic simply to get off on some hoplophobic hard-on.
    Actually the point of the thread was to see who thought that the average citizen should be allowed to have VX, Ebola and Nuclear weapons. You should look up the discussion with Voidwar. He thinks that the average citizen should be allowed to have those three. You assume too much. And I seriously doubt you have your own business. But that's neither here nor there.
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    One of the things about belonging to a political forum is, the people there seem so obsessed with politics they subscribe to ideologies rather than common sense.

    Common sense is, there is no reason to let people own anything more powerful than a handgun or a rifle. Nuclear weapons are not required for self-defense and putting them in the hands of anyone who wants them creates a threat to humanity.
    Anything that civilian police or federal agents routinely have in their armories should be the baseline from which we start the debate

    That means OTHER citizens clearly should be able to own

    semi auto handguns

    "sniper rifles"--ie Centerfire rifles of 50BMG caliber or smaller

    select fire carbines

    submachine guns

    semi auto shotguns

    various governmental units have already admitted such firearms are suitable for defensive use by civilian employees of the state or city in urban environments.
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    Why would you not want to register your weapon?
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Could you give an example of a peace-weapon?
    a vibrator?
    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Why would you not want to register your weapon?
    Quote Originally Posted by Celebrity View Post
    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    a vibrator?
    That's a piece-of-ass weapon.
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    That's a piece-of-ass weapon.
    TMI dude but hey, what ever floats your boat
    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Why would you not want to register your weapon?
    Quote Originally Posted by Celebrity View Post
    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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