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    10 16.67%
  • Aersol Ebola

    9 15.00%
  • Nuclear Weapons

    6 10.00%
  • Jet Fighters with full munitions

    20 33.33%
  • Claymores and Mines

    29 48.33%
  • Anti-Armor Missiles

    27 45.00%
  • Machine Guns

    40 66.67%
  • Handguns

    57 95.00%
  • Automatic Rifles

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Thread: Limits to Private Arsenals

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    PKM vs Steyr AUG.



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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Fair enough. You win on definitions (which are rather retarded as it makes mere parts machine guns thus begging the question of rationality of the law) Add that to your single digit list of victories. This makes...5?
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    heheheheheheh

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Fair enough. You win on definitions (which are rather retarded as it makes mere parts machine guns thus begging the question of rationality of the law) Add that to your single digit list of victories. This makes...5?

    A drop in auto sear makes my semi auto m4 type carbine a whole different animal.








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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Fair enough. You win on definitions (which are rather retarded as it makes mere parts machine guns thus begging the question of rationality of the law)
    Your statement marked in red is what scares me about most gun laws. The people making the laws don't know anything about the actual weapons. If they did, most gun laws would go away.


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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Your statement marked in red is what scares me about most gun laws. The people making the laws don't know anything about the actual weapons. If they did, most gun laws would go away.
    The term “machinegun” means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.
    US CODE: Title 26,5845. Definitions

    Mere parts are machine guns?

    That isn't the case for the rifle and shotgun section of the law.
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post

    So what is the best technuique when knitting a quilt?
    Enjoying your smack?

    For someone who wins on definitions (especially retarded ones that makes the trigger of a machine gun a machine gun in itself), you outta try harder elsewhere. You know, like the economics forum. Which requires a brain. Why do I never see you in there?
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    US CODE: Title 26,5845. Definitions

    Mere parts are machine guns?
    It has to do with function. Most of the time the line is blurred simply by looks. Just look at the original assault weapons ban. The original ban was for the most part nothing but cosmetics that did not affect the function of the weapon. That is why it failed miserably.

    An assault rifle for example can fire semi-automatic, 3 round burst and/or full auto. A self loading carbine can only fire semi-automatic.

    If you placed an SAR-1 (AK style semi-auto) next to a true AK-47 (fully automatic) cosmetically they look exactly the same. Now take and add a slightly longer barrel, drum magazine and stock to the true AK-47 and you have the AKM light Machine gun. Do the same to the SAR-1, and you have a cool looking self loading carbine and nothing more.

    So waisting the tax payers money on a stupid an ineffective law because you know nothing about weapons is just ignorant. Yet this is exactly what our anti-gun politicians do. They go strictly by the look of a weapon rather than it's true fundtion.

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    That isn't the case for the rifle and shotgun section of the law.
    Not true at all. They have fully automatic shotguns and rifles as well. You are like most legislators confusing function with style.

    "Automatic rifle is a term generally used to describe a self-loading rifle chambered for a rifle cartridge, capable of delivering both semi- and fully automatic fire. This "select-fire" capability, as well as the (general) use of magazine-fed rifle ammunition, differentiate it from other classes of automatic firearm such as the machine gun and submachine gun." - [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_rifle[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c]YouTube - AA-12. World's deadliest shotgun![/ame]

    PS: I want one!
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    US CODE: Title 26,5845. Definitions

    Mere parts are machine guns?

    That isn't the case for the rifle and shotgun section of the law.



    Yes according to the law. You even have one part of an NFA restricted rifle, you need an FFL3.


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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Enjoying your smack?

    For someone who wins on definitions (especially retarded ones that makes the trigger of a machine gun a machine gun in itself), you outta try harder elsewhere. You know, like the economics forum. Which requires a brain. Why do I never see you in there?

    I agree the definition is retarted in the sense of US law. But thems the facts. However, the initial definition calls for a magazine or belt. I also answered your snide question about a Steyr, putting you in your rightful place.



    As for the Economics forum. Most of that crap bores me. This is why I have a staff of accountants for both my business and personal. I am far to rich to count my own money. I have "the help" do it. Anyway, I am in there time to time, But I don't start dumb threads that demonstrate a fundamental ignorance on a topic simply to get off on some hoplophobic hard-on.


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