View Poll Results: Which should be legal for average citizens to own and use?

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  • VX

    10 16.67%
  • Aersol Ebola

    9 15.00%
  • Nuclear Weapons

    6 10.00%
  • Jet Fighters with full munitions

    20 33.33%
  • Claymores and Mines

    29 48.33%
  • Anti-Armor Missiles

    27 45.00%
  • Machine Guns

    40 66.67%
  • Handguns

    57 95.00%
  • Automatic Rifles

    49 81.67%
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Thread: Limits to Private Arsenals

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    All this is pretty irrelevant. As it stands now you cannot own explosives or explosive devices without a class 3 Federal License. So in reality it has not been found unconstitutional which reinforces my point.

    Obviously reality and the common sense of the situation wins out.
    I'd pretty much say that the responsible use of claymores by a private citizen would involve:

    Thoroughly fenced property.

    Property large enough so that shrapnel from the weapon could not cross that fence under any circumstances.

    And thorough posting of the property as being defended by lethal explosive devices.

    They're not for Joe Schmuck living in the suburbs, no.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I'd pretty much say that the responsible use of claymores by a private citizen would involve:

    Thoroughly fenced property.

    Property large enough so that shrapnel from the weapon could not cross that fence under any circumstances.

    And thorough posting of the property as being defended by lethal explosive devices.

    They're not for Joe Schmuck living in the suburbs, no.
    I don't really have any issue with them under those specific circumstances.
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    None of which addresses my point, in that I am shocked how it is that some people will squeal like a stuck pig when posed with the idea of requiring a license to exercise right A, but don't see a problem with requring a license to exercise right B.

    Rights are rights - if something infringes right A, it will also infringe right B.
    Unfortunately the founding fathers weren't alive to see the destructive power of the weapons today. Or the fact that one man with an RPG can light up a city block in seconds. This in regards to the second amendment.

    It is really sad that some people are unwilling to admit that times have changed. If common sense cannot be applied reasonably to account for our changing society, we mite as well issue in a new dark age right now.

    The Constitution (as much as I believe in it) is over 200 years old. Society's, technology and people change. We have to adapt to these changes or be like a large part of the Middle East and still living in the 15th century.
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Unfortunately the founding fathers weren't alive to see the destructive power of the weapons today. Or the fact that one man with an RPG can light up a city block in seconds. This in regards to the second amendment.
    They also were not able to conceive of the internet, CNN, the telephone or using satellites to spy on people -- and yet, the Constitution covers these things.

    Or, do you agree that it should not?

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I only went with the firearms. The nukes and fighter jets are only going to be available to the very rich, so I considered them practically irrelevant.
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    Tucker-I think you and the rest who think only the rich can get a Fighter jet are a tad misunderstood. I can get you a fully operational Mig21T with all the FAA/CAA paperwork for under the price of most SUVs out their.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Tucker-I think you and the rest who think only the rich can get a Fighter jet are a tad misunderstood. I can get you a fully operational Mig21T with all the FAA/CAA paperwork for under the price of most SUVs out their.
    Yeah, ok. Shoot me the pamphlet and I'll let you know if I am buying or not.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    as a Class 3 permit holder and a Concealed handgun License holder....I think semi auto rifles and handguns are fine IF REGISTERED.....as far as the rest...its quite obvious that if one has the money they can buy any of those...but its ridiculous to even comment on the ownership of such.

    Last edited by EulyssElvisCaustic; 06-09-09 at 03:31 PM.
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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post

    If someone owns a fully operational and armed jet fighter they need a license, period. They should have to prove they are knowledgeable in the operation and maintaining of such a destructive device. Much like our present laws on explosives etc.
    Nope you don't have to show any of these yes you do need an import license for Ex-Soviet Aircraft and certain Western Build Aircraft. As for the knowledge the only item the FAA ask for is an approved maintance program and that the pilot(s) have a the right amount of training in said airframe

    Also you folks do understand that anyone can also go out and purchase say a T-54 Tank rebuild and drive it or a Sherman,King Tiger ect. ect. you don't need any special permit of training for Armor.

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by EulyssElvisCaustic View Post
    as a Class 3 permit holder and a Concealed handgun License holder....I think semi auto rifles and handguns are fine IF REGISTERED
    -How does -that- make them OK?
    -How does registration not qualify as an infringement, under the 2nd amendment?

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    Re: Limits to Private Arsenals

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Tucker-I think you and the rest who think only the rich can get a Fighter jet are a tad misunderstood. I can get you a fully operational Mig21T with all the FAA/CAA paperwork for under the price of most SUVs out their.
    I'm actually thinking of a fighter jet + ordinance. That might get a tad more pricey.

    But even if your average joe could get ahold of one with ease, they are a bitch to conceal.
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