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  • He is a terrorist but real torture instead of waterboarding should be used on him

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should Tiller the baby killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded for information? Some of have claimed the man is a terrorist or an extremist nutjob and Scott Roeder has claimed that there is more to come.


    Please keep in mind this poll question is aimed at abortionist and the anti-abortion phonies who claim to be anti-abortion on the belief that "fetuses" are babies in the womb, so there will be no poll options for those of us who are actually anti-abortion.


    Accused Abortion Doctor Killer Claims More Violence Is Planned - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com
    Scott Roeder, being held on charges of first-degree murder and aggravated assault in the killing of Dr. George Tiller one week ago, called The Associated Press from the Sedgwick County jail.

    Tiller, whose Wichita clinic was among only a few in the U.S. performing third-trimester abortions, was shot while serving as an usher at the Lutheran church he attended.

    "I know there are many other similar events planned around the country as long as abortion remains legal," Roeder said.

    He would not elaborate.tion Friday to see if the gunman who killed Tiller had accomplices. The DOJ said its Civil Rights Division and the U.S. attorney's office in Kansas will seek to determine if the killing violated a 1994 law creating criminal penalties for violent or damaging conduct toward abortion providers and their patients.

    No as an American citizen he has the unalienable rights to due process. If he wasn't a citizen I'd say go for it but waterboarding would probably be useless in this case due to him apparently being a lone wolf terrorist rather than a member of a terrorist network. Waterboarding should never be used as a punishment but rather only as an interrogation method.
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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Ahh, its all clear now.

    James actually supports a more ancient muslim style of law? Hamurabi's code type thing James? Eye for an eye? I didn't realize you hated democracy and the United States legal system so much. So because he killed babies in your mind, mind you legally, it should be perfectly okay and celebrated to kill him. Eye for an eye right. Just like you say its apparently fine to pick up illegals and take them back if they come here illegally, eye for an eye.

    So I can only assume a phony "supporter of the United States of America" that likes eye for an eye type punishment would also agree with say...chopping off peoples hands if they steal. Will need to remember to make sure if a 12 year old is caught shop lifting we need to get a hatchet in the future. If you unknowingly slept with another man's wife I'm sure you'd have no issue with him cutting off your penis as punishment, eye for an eye right? Or he could just have his way with whatever woman you found most important in your life as punishment for it. Ahh yes james, eye for an eye regardless of the law is an intriguing thought.....entirely unamerican, but intriguing all the same.
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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Ahh, its all clear now.

    James actually supports a more ancient muslim style of law? Hamurabi's code type thing James? Eye for an eye? I didn't realize you hated democracy and the United States legal system so much. So because he killed babies in your mind, mind you legally, it should be perfectly okay and celebrated to kill him. Eye for an eye right. Just like you say its apparently fine to pick up illegals and take them back if they come here illegally, eye for an eye.
    Um he's talking about Tiller who killed the abortion doctor who he referred to as a baby killer. I think you misread the title.

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Um he's talking about Tiller who killed the abortion doctor who he referred to as a baby killer. I think you misread the title.
    Umm...first, Tiller WAS the abortion doctor, not the person that killed him.

    Second, I understand what he's saying. He's calling anyone that is against abortion, but doesn't celebrate, condone, and agree with the action of a man murdering someone else a "phony" abortionist. He apparently believes that the laws of this country do not matter and that people should be celebrated, condoned, and applauded for breaking those laws and ending a life. His justification for this is that Tiller, legally, ended other lives. This is eye for eye judgement. I had not realized that James was for such barbaric, anti-american, forms of justice but it seems this thread has corrected me. In a very similar jamesrage type of way, the only people I can see that are celebrating and condoning a man murdering someone but say they support the United States of America and its laws are "phony supporters of the United States of America".
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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Um he's talking about Tiller who killed the abortion doctor who he referred to as a baby killer. I think you misread the title.
    So he is saying two wrongs can make a right? Or what?

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Ahh, its all clear now.

    James actually supports a more ancient muslim style of law? Hamurabi's code type thing James? Eye for an eye? I didn't realize you hated democracy and the United States legal system so much. So because he killed babies in your mind, mind you legally, it should be perfectly okay and celebrated to kill him. Eye for an eye right. Just like you say its apparently fine to pick up illegals and take them back if they come here illegally, eye for an eye.

    Abortion wasn't legalized because some elected politicians made some laws with the approval of voters. It was legalized because of some judges. So please do not play the oh your against democracy line again. A baby killing monster is dead, hell yes I am going to glad just like when any other mass murderer or serial killer gets killed.


    So I can only assume a phony "supporter of the United States of America" that likes eye for an eye type punishment would also agree with say...chopping off peoples hands if they steal. Will need to remember to make sure if a 12 year old is caught shop lifting we need to get a hatchet in the future. If you unknowingly slept with another man's wife I'm sure you'd have no issue with him cutting off your penis as punishment, eye for an eye right? Or he could just have his way with whatever woman you found most important in your life as punishment for it. Ahh yes james, eye for an eye regardless of the law is an intriguing thought.....entirely unamerican, but intriguing all the same.

    Amazing how you compare the killing of Tiller the baby killer to chopping off hands for stealing. Are you trying to say that executions are an eye for an eye and this it is unAmerican? Executions are American.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Amazing how you compare the killing of Tiller the baby killer to chopping off hands for stealing. Are you trying to say that executions are an eye for an eye and this it is unAmerican? Executions are American.
    No, the death penalty following a fair trial is perhaps American.

    "Execution" in the term of some guy going and deciding some other guy needs to die is highly unamerican. But you can continue your little phony "Support of the USA" parade if you wish, its fine.
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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    No, the death penalty following a fair trial is perhaps American.

    "Execution" in the term of some guy going and deciding some other guy needs to die is highly unamerican. But you can continue your little phony "Support of the USA" parade if you wish, its fine.
    I wouldn't call any of the abolitionist, people who escaped slavery, Slaves who taught other slaves to read, people who refused to sit on the back of be UnAmerican because they refused to listen to unjust laws with out a fair trial. People like Harriet Tubman, Nat Turner, Frederick Douglas and others like them who refused to obey the law were great Americans. So your characterization of any one who refuses to obey the law without a fair trial or due process or support of those individuals is ludicrous. Would you call every pothead or someone who has at least tried illegal drugs unAmerican because they violated the law without due process or a fair trial?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Nope, just calling those that make a gigantic deal about a group of people doing something illegal because it hurts the soveriegnty of this country but then turns around and condones, supports, and attacks anyone that doesn't agree with a guy murdering someone and doing vigilante justice completely outside of the law a "phony supporter of the USA". I'm just following in your footsteps of creating idiotic, ignorant, dumb as **** definitions for people who don't fit my view of a scenario. I'm learning from the master.
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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Nope, just calling those that make a gigantic deal about a group of people doing something illegal because it hurts the soveriegnty
    of this country but then turns around and condones, supports, and attacks anyone that doesn't agree with a guy murdering someone and doing vigilante justice completely outside of the law a "phony supporter of the USA". I'm just following in your footsteps of creating idiotic, ignorant, dumb as **** definitions for people who don't fit my view of a scenario. I'm learning from the master.
    You are just trying to grasp at straws aren't you? First you claim that some illegals are patriots then you try to make some crock of **** comparison with hands being chopped off. then you claim I am anti-American because I support vigilantism and during that I prove to you that many great Americans have disobeyed the law and have even killed others. Now you are trying to come up with some other bull ****.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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