View Poll Results: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

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  • Yes he is a terrorist and should got to GITMO to be waterboarded for info

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  • He is a terrorist but real torture instead of waterboarding should be used on him

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  • Yes he is a terrorist but no he should not be waterboarded or tortured

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    [Is Tiller's killer] ...a terrorist or an extremist nutjob...
    Is there a difference? As long as a person commits an act of violence to defend an ideology or religious view shared by more than one person then they are technically a terrorist.

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by metreon View Post
    Is there a difference? As long as a person commits an act of violence to defend an ideology or religious view shared by more than one person then they are technically a terrorist.
    I have an uncle who's a retired Army Ranger. He's the first one who ever told me that over here, they're our freedom fighters, but over there, they're terrorists.

    Terrorism is a combat style, not an ideology. It's basically gorilla warfare.

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    I think Tillers killer should be tried and if convicted then punished to the full extent of the law....

    as for Tiller.....he just got a "late term abortion"
    ..and when he gets to the pigIron gates of hell....I do suppose Satan will say....

    "what goes around......
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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    phony anti-abortionist: Abortion is murder!,abortionist kill babies! What someone killed an abortion provider, curse him! he is a terrorist! and whack job extremist murderer!.
    So essentially you're saying the only way to be considered a "real" anti-abortionist by Jamesrage is if you revel in someones death and the breaking of our law....


    ....wait a moment, aren't you the same person that is CONSTANTLY bitching and complaining about illegal immigrants because them even being in this country shows they don't give a **** about our rule of law and as such we shouldn't make concessions to them? And yet if someone finds that a person BREAKING THE LAW and killing someone to be a horrible thing that is the act of an extremist they're somehow "phony" in their dislike for abortion?


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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What I mean is the phonies who claim to be anti-abortion(with the belief that fetuses are babies/humans deserving of life outside the womb) while condemning a man who kills an abortion provider(Abortion providers should be seen as a legal serial killer mass murder in the eyes of the anti-abortionist).

    IN other words-

    phony anti-abortionist: Abortion is murder!,abortionist kill babies! What someone killed an abortion provider, curse him! he is a terrorist! and whack job extremist murderer!.

    Abortionist: Yeah Tiller's murderer is a terrorist and a whack job extremist murderer.
    Condemning somebody for the murder of an abortion provider makes you a phony anti-antiabortionist? Last I checked the people who condemned Tiller's murderer also condemned Tiller for his work.

    You're being very selective in your labeling James.
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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Condemning somebody for the murder of an abortion provider makes you a phony anti-antiabortionist?


    Last I checked the people who condemned Tiller's murderer also condemned Tiller for his work.

    You're being very selective in your labeling James
    Last I checked most people who claim to pro-life or antiabortion claim to be that because they believe babies inside the womb are no different than those outside the womb. With that mind every person calling him or herself pro-life or antiabortion for that reason should see Tiller as a monster who is basically a serial killer or legal mass murderer who needed to stopped mo matter what. So therefore with those above things also in mind Tiller's killer should be seen as a hero by those who claim to be against abortion because they view that a baby in the womb is no different than one outside the womb. So I have wonder how many of them were holding their tongue as to not look nuts to a group of people who already look at them as nuts every time they want a law changed to restrict or severely restrict abortion or want abortion stopped period. When a monster gets killed I could care less who kills him. I am not going to condemn a man that basically killed a legal mass murderer/serial killer. From what I understand Tiller was one of three late term abortionist, so Scott Roeder took out a huge chunk of the late term abortion providers.
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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Last I checked most people who claim to pro-life or antiabortion claim to be that because they believe babies inside the womb are no different than those outside the womb.
    And what does this have to do with condemning somebody for committing murder in the name of their beliefs?

    With that mind every person calling him or herself pro-life or antiabortion for that reason should see Tiller as a monster who is basically a serial killer or legal mass murderer who needed to stopped mo matter what.
    And what does this have to do with condemning somebody for committing murder in the name of their beliefs?

    So therefore with those above things also in mind Tiller's killer should be seen as a hero by those who claim to be against abortion because they view that a baby in the womb is no different than one outside the womb.
    Hahahaha. False. Thinking that abortion is murder does not mean you should support killing people who provide such a service anymore then it means you should kill women getting abortions.

    So I have wonder how many of them were holding their tongue as to not look nuts to a group of people who already look at them as nuts every time they want a law changed to restrict or severely restrict abortion or want abortion stopped period. When a monster gets killed I could care less who kills him. I am not going to condemn a man that basically killed a legal mass murderer/serial killer. From what I understand Tiller was one of three late term abortionist, so Scott Roeder took out a huge chunk of the late term abortion providers.
    Hahahaha. Well. It's good to know you're officially insane and only care about the law when it comes to illegal immigrants. Opposing abortion and saying those who provide the service should be killed are two entirely different things. It's like saying you're against illegal immigration and would have immigrants be executed for it. It's extremism. While I do agree with you that the number of people who support this in the pro-life side are probably larger then we can see. You'll find very few people who will admit it on the pro-life side.
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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    So James...what you're saying is as long as you feel its morally okay and it helps push your agenda of what you feel is right for the rights of humans (in this case the baby) its perfectly okay and you should be applauded for breaking the laws of the United States of America?
    You down with TPP?

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So James...what you're saying is as long as you feel its morally okay and it helps push your agenda of what you feel is right for the rights of humans (in this case the baby) its perfectly okay and you should be applauded for breaking the laws of the United States of America?
    So the underground railroad participants were wrong for helping blacks escape slavery and the blacks who escaped from slavery were wrong for escaping? Are you saying that those people should have been condemned by the abolitionist for breaking the law and that they should have just sat there doing nothing until the law changed? Is that what you are saying?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And what does this have to do with condemning somebody for committing murder in the name of their beliefs?



    And what does this have to do with condemning somebody for committing murder in the name of their beliefs?
    So does that mean you do not look at underground railroad participants as heroes? After all they violated the law for what they believed in?




    Hahahaha. False. Thinking that abortion is murder does not mean you should support killing people who provide such a service anymore then it means you should kill women getting abortions.
    If you truely believe abortion is nothing more than legalized serial killing or mass murder then you should support the few who go out and risk life in prison or the death penalty to take out a baby killing monster. The mother who gets an abortion should be seen as nothing more than a legalized 1st degree murderer or at least someone involved in a legal murder for hire.


    Hahahaha. Well. It's good to know you're officially insane and only care about the law when it comes to illegal immigrants. Opposing abortion and saying those who provide the service should be killed are two entirely different things. It's like saying you're against illegal immigration and would have immigrants be executed for it. It's extremism.

    Abortion and illegal immigration are two separate thing. A vigilante action equivalent to an abortionist being killed with illegal immigration would be kidnapping illegals and flying them back to their countries. Since that is what is usually done with illegals just as execution is usually what is done with serial killers. Killing illegals inside the country would be excessive. Killing baby killing monsters is not excessive.

    I fully expect you and other abortionist to condemn Scott Roeder,call him a whack job,terrorist or what ever other name you all have called him and call Tiller the baby killer a hero. After all in your eyes abortion is nothing more than the removal of expendable non sentient organs. So you and other abortionist view Scott Roeder as someone who murdered a poor innocent doctor who removes something equivalent to that of a toe nail, pancreas or tonsils. So it makes sense why you and others like you would condemn that man.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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