View Poll Results: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

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  • Yes he is a terrorist and should got to GITMO to be waterboarded for info

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  • Yes he is a terrorist and should be waterboarded here for info

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  • He is a terrorist but real torture instead of waterboarding should be used on him

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  • Yes he is a terrorist but no he should not be waterboarded or tortured

    12 42.86%
  • No he is not a terrorist but waterboarding or torture should be used on him

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  • No he is not a terrorist and he should not be waterboarded or tortured

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am sure there are other methods for extracting information. So water boarding isn't the only one. However I do not think anything less extreme than water boarding will work.
    Is this opinion based upon your years of experience as a criminal interrogator? Is it also your opinion that waterboarding should then be used routinely to interrogate suspects of crimes in the U.S.?
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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am sure there are other methods for extracting information. So water boarding isn't the only one. However I do not think anything less extreme than water boarding will work.
    Okay thank you finally.

    This technique I think would be more reliable:

    HowStuffWorks "How Police Interrogation Works"

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    I'm sending you a PM, James.



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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    I have said repeatedly that torture is a moral issue to me. Torture, EIT's, whatever you want to call them are wrong to my mind. That is still the case in this case, torture is still wrong, and so we should not do it. Why would that change?

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    So far, Roeder is accused of one shooting--one homicide.

    Other than his ominous hints, there is no evidence Operation Rescue is fomenting violence and vigilantism against corrupt abortion doctors like Tiller.

    Further, Roeder committed his crime in Wichita Kansas.

    Roeder is a murderer, not a terrorist, and thus should be tried for that crime in Kansas, and punished accordingly if (when?) found guilty.

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Okay thank you finally.

    This technique I think would be more reliable:

    HowStuffWorks "How Police Interrogation Works"
    I do not think such a method is going to work on a individual who believes the way he does,especially if he has a lawyer present.
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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I have said repeatedly that torture is a moral issue to me. Torture, EIT's, whatever you want to call them are wrong to my mind. That is still the case in this case, torture is still wrong, and so we should not do it. Why would that change?
    Maybe you do not want to see any more abortion providers killed, I could be wrong but I think there is around 1500 plus abortion providers in this country and only a hand full of late term abortion providers.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Maybe you do not want to see any more abortion providers killed, I could be wrong but I think there is around 1500 plus abortion providers in this country and only a hand full of late term abortion providers.
    So what is your point? Right is right, wrong is wrong, and just because there is risk involved in doing what is right does not mean you should not do what is right.

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should Tiller the baby killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded for information? Some of have claimed the man is a terrorist or an extremist nutjob and Scott Roeder has claimed that there is more to come.


    Please keep in mind this poll question is aimed at abortionist and the anti-abortion phonies who claim to be anti-abortion on the belief that "fetuses" are babies in the womb, so there will be no poll options for those of us who are actually anti-abortion.


    Accused Abortion Doctor Killer Claims More Violence Is Planned - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com
    Scott Roeder, being held on charges of first-degree murder and aggravated assault in the killing of Dr. George Tiller one week ago, called The Associated Press from the Sedgwick County jail.

    Tiller, whose Wichita clinic was among only a few in the U.S. performing third-trimester abortions, was shot while serving as an usher at the Lutheran church he attended.

    "I know there are many other similar events planned around the country as long as abortion remains legal," Roeder said.

    He would not elaborate.tion Friday to see if the gunman who killed Tiller had accomplices. The DOJ said its Civil Rights Division and the U.S. attorney's office in Kansas will seek to determine if the killing violated a 1994 law creating criminal penalties for violent or damaging conduct toward abortion providers and their patients.
    I believe this man is connected to Army of God, a domestic terrorist group, therefore I personally believe he's a terrorist.

    I support torturing terrorists.

    Send his ass to Git'mo.

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    Re: Should Tiller the Baby Killer's murder suspect go to GITMO to get water boarded?

    I don't understand why given the advancements in medicine, neurology, and psychology a government as technology advanced as the United States still has to employ a primitive method of torture like water boarding to get information out of people.

    I understand the administration of truth serums is still considered torture, but I highly doubt there would be a public outcry over sticking a needle in someone and extracting information without any long term physical ailments or extreme short term physical discomfort.

    Did MKULTRA and MKDELTA really fail that hard?

    There has to be programs in the works or methods currently being used to get information in a far easier manner. If they weren't, I am sure they are now.
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