View Poll Results: Is Islam incompatible with religion?

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  • No, there are other factors

    22 45.83%
  • Yes, because there is no separation between church & state over there

    10 20.83%
  • Yes, because the Koran is their only law, and it is against democracy

    12 25.00%
  • Yes, because it's "foreign" to their culture, democracy is a Western concept

    4 8.33%
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    6 12.50%
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Thread: Is Islam incompatible with democracy?

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    Re: Is Islam incompatible with democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Partly free is not a Democracy.
    It's partly a democracy. Still better than Russia or China. That's the point.


    And 405 muslims is not half of all the muslims on this planet.
    I won't list all the muslim countries. I listed the biggest ones so that you get the point. And even those countries alone are more than enough to show that democracy is totally possible in Muslim countries

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    Re: Is Islam incompatible with democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    As for India, well there are 150 millions muslims, they accept democracy.
    How do they show it? With massacres or by bombing?
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    Re: Is Islam incompatible with democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glücksritter View Post
    How do they show it? With massacres or by bombing?
    There are also terrorist attacks in Spain, but no one says that Basque people are antidemocratic. The ETA does not represent them.

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    Re: Is Islam incompatible with democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glücksritter View Post
    How do they show it? With massacres or by bombing?
    Indian Muslims are very moderate and peaceful. What are you talking about?
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    Re: Is Islam incompatible with democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    My point is that religion is incompatible with democracy. All major religions demand a certain level of devotion by followers to said religion and that devotion on many levels contradicts basic democratic freedoms and thought.
    That view would be a tough sell to the American Baptists; they played a key role in colonial politics, during the 'Great Awakening' decades, and the eventual American Revolution here, and Thomas Jefferson made it a priority of getting their support for his more liberal platforms in the Constitution. They were the leading proponents of the separation of Church and State doctrine and secular public education, a battle Jefferson was still fighting when he died with the state of Virginia.

    Of course, it's certainly up for debate whether the Revolution was a big mistake in the first place or not ...

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    Re: Is Islam incompatible with democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    There are also terrorist attacks in Spain, but no one says that Basque people are antidemocratic. The ETA does not represent them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Indian Muslims are very moderate and peaceful. What are you talking about?
    I think it is rather strange to build up a story of a muslim country being democratic, bacause a muslim minority "accepts" it, by the way a country with one of the most victims of Islamist terrorism.
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    Re: Is Islam incompatible with democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glücksritter View Post
    I think it is rather strange to build up a story of a muslim country being democratic, bacause a muslim minority "accepts" it, by the way a country with one of the most victims of Islamist terrorism.
    How many non-Muslim nations are in fact "democratic"?

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    Re: Is Islam incompatible with democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    How many non-Muslim nations are in fact "democratic"?
    If India is a muslim nation for you due to a muslim minority, I have serious doubts that a non muslim country by your definition exists at all.

    Even in North Corea exists a small muslim minority of a few people.
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    Re: Is Islam incompatible with democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    How many non-Muslim nations are in fact "democratic"?
    65 more or less.
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    Re: Is Islam incompatible with democracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Indonesia is the biggest muslim country in the world, and it is a democracy.
    India is the 2nd biggest muslim country in the world, and it is also a democracy.


    China is the biggest country in the world, it is not muslim and it is a dictatorship.
    Russia is one of the biggest non muslim countries in the world, and it is also a dictatorship.

    How do you explain that?

    Easily. The further away from the heartland of Islam (or Sunni Arabs) the more progressive the society gets. Notice that? The most democratic and socially progressive Muslim country is Turkey and they are not Sunni Arabs. The most oppressive Muslim governments are Sudan, Saudi Arabia, and formerly Iraq....all Sunni Arab nations. I stated this a few posts ago.

    India is not parented by a Muslim government. But if they were, the Sunni prescritpion would not be a hinderance.

    China and Russia have nothing to do with nothing. However, Russia is as "democratic" as Iran. And communism has been referred to as the "godless" religion before.
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