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    Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    Like the Pearl Harbor vs. 9/11 thread. Which was a worse? Which was more necessary?
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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur View Post
    Like the Pearl Harbor vs. 9/11 thread. Which was a worse? Which was more necessary?
    Neither was necessary.
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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    Hiroshima was infinitely worse and not necessary at all. Drop the first A-bomb in a field and politely ask for surrender. Drop the next A-bomb in a smallish town and ask less politely. Drop the last one on Tokyo. We'd probably never have had to drop the second and third bombs.

    Torture was probably helpful in some cases and not in others. It sets a poor precedent, but it wasn't as devastating as the atomic bomb.
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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Edify_Always_In_All_Ways View Post
    Hiroshima was infinitely worse and not necessary at all. Drop the first A-bomb in a field and politely ask for surrender. Drop the next A-bomb in a smallish town and ask less politely. Drop the last one on Tokyo. We'd probably never have had to drop the second and third bombs.
    The US started with a town and still had to drop a second.
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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    The US started with a town and still had to drop a second.
    No, they didn't. No bomb drops were needed, as the Japanese were already willing to surrender.

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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    Hiroshima was necessary because the Japs refused to surrender.

    Too bad for them.

    Enhanced interrogation of the Gitmo detainees is necessary when they won't talk.

    What's the big deal, it's not like they're human?

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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    In terms of numbers, the bombing of Hiroshima was worse than torture. However, neither are a good thing. I think the atomic bombings can be justified in the war we were fighting at the time, but it's still an unfortunate evil to have engaged in and should not be engaged in lightly. Torture I think is a lot more difficult to justify because wide spread use of it will not produce much in the way of results especially when considering all which has to be done to get a few results. The Japanese government did not surrender after the first bombing, and before the atomic bombs were dropped I doubt heavily that the people were interested much in surrender. Land based assault would most likely have wielded many more casualties, especially on our side. While I can see justification for the use of nuclear weapons in that case, I also think we should understand that it's not a good thing to use such weaponry against people and keep it only as a very last resort.
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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    Hiroshima was necessary because the Japs refused to surrender.

    Too bad for them.

    We've already been through this
    , and you were unable to back up this assertion.

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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Edify_Always_In_All_Ways View Post
    Hiroshima was infinitely worse and not necessary at all. Drop the first A-bomb in a field and politely ask for surrender. Drop the next A-bomb in a smallish town and ask less politely. Drop the last one on Tokyo. We'd probably never have had to drop the second and third bombs.
    Interesting logic not supported by a single fact.

    You are aware that we had to bomb TWO jap cities before they surrendered, right?

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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post

    We've already been through this
    , and you were unable to back up this assertion.
    You mean you already lost and now you're lying.

    Point of fact:

    Japan did not surrender until AFTER the second bomb was dropped.

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