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  • Hiroshima was worse

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  • Torture is worse

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  • Hiroshima was neseccary

    22 78.57%
  • Torture was neseccary

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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It was "A sleeping giant" and if I am correct it was Admiral Yamamoto.
    He never said it.
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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    He never said it.
    So what? He is accredited with it because of the movies. In essence whether he said it or not it was correct.


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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So what? He is accredited with it because of the movies. In essence whether he said it or not it was correct.
    All the statement does is sum up what he thought at the time. That is what is important. Not that he did not actually utter the verbatim statement.

    Less dramatic was his statement "after that, I have no expectation of success" in reference to the time period of 6 months after Pearl Harbor.

    American is just being nitpicking without regard for the value of the underlying notions.
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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It was "A sleeping giant" and if I am correct it was Admiral Yamamoto.
    Yes it is attribut to him but over the past few years it has come out that he never actually utter those exact words.

    This is the quote that most folks know,

    I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

    But according to Hiroyuki Agawa author of The Reluctant Admiral this is what he actually said,

    "A military man can scarcely pride himself on having 'smitten a sleeping enemy'; it is more a matter of shame, simply, for the one smitten. I would rather you made your appraisal after seeing what the enemy does, since it is certain that, angered and outraged, he will soon launch a determined counterattack."

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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Yes it is attribut to him but over the past few years it has come out that he never actually utter those exact words.

    This is the quote that most folks know,

    I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

    But according to Hiroyuki Agawa author of The Reluctant Admiral this is what he actually said,

    "A military man can scarcely pride himself on having 'smitten a sleeping enemy'; it is more a matter of shame, simply, for the one smitten. I would rather you made your appraisal after seeing what the enemy does, since it is certain that, angered and outraged, he will soon launch a determined counterattack."
    The quote everyone "knows" is actually the closing line from the movie Tora! Tora! Tora!

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    Re: Hiroshima Bombing vs. Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Yes it is attribut to him but over the past few years it has come out that he never actually utter those exact words.

    This is the quote that most folks know,

    I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

    But according to Hiroyuki Agawa author of The Reluctant Admiral this is what he actually said,

    "A military man can scarcely pride himself on having 'smitten a sleeping enemy'; it is more a matter of shame, simply, for the one smitten. I would rather you made your appraisal after seeing what the enemy does, since it is certain that, angered and outraged, he will soon launch a determined counterattack."
    If those are his real words then they are better and awesomer.
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