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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Israel would be isolated over that and much more
    Who do you have?
    Europe? Hell no. They have been your biggest critic
    Asia? Nope.
    Africa? Not a hope in hell.

    Israel would be nothing if it didn't have US.
    It is US that protects Israel and makes it slightly relevant to the International Community ... let's be serious.
    If US didn't veto, where would Israel be? The amount of resolutions that would have passed would be huge
    We can always become Communist.
    The Kibbutz' system is very similar to communism anyway.
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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    If the Palestinians can't live with Jews, it's their xenophobic problem.
    We lived with Arabs in our lands 61 years so far, and it wasn't a problem at all.
    They can do whatever they wish to with the settlers, they're not Israeli citizens anyway.
    Nope, not me.
    Yes they do, but it seems nothing is being done.
    I just read some person was threatening one your generals. People go to jail for that over here.

    Arabs and Muslims have lived with Jews for hundreds of years/thousand years, it has nothing to do with any inherent issue.


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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    We can always become Communist.
    The Kibbutz' system is very similar to communism anyway.
    Lol, that might work


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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Nope, not me.
    Yes they do, but it seems nothing is being done.
    I just read some person was threatening one your generals. People go to jail for that over here.
    Who says he wouldn't go to jail?
    Again, settlers have radicals, it's no secret.
    Arabs and Muslims have lived with Jews for hundreds of years/thousand years, it has nothing to do with any inherent issue.
    Indeed that has nothing to do with it.
    But it's quite absurd that the Palestinians won't take Jews into their country.
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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Indeed that has nothing to do with it.
    But it's quite absurd that the Palestinians won't take Jews into their country.
    I don't think Jews want to be with Palestinians.
    It seems to me to be mutual distrust that is the problem. For too long both sides have seen one another as the enemy and dehumanized them for decades, it'll take time to get over that


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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Well it depends. If he tells Israel harshly to stop the settlements and Israeli ignores him and we continue to support Israel (which we will) they'll soon realize he's full of empty platitudes.

    I remember Bush talking about how the settlements were an impediment to peace or progress. I don't recall him saying they were unacceptable or being so harsh publicly.

    I'm not sure that was a good idea.
    As long as he continues to pressure Israel over the settlements he will have their support. The problem is that the settlements will never be pulled-back. They will grow internally, but if they spread any further than they can no longer demand expect U.S. support, for they will be shattering any possible peace solution.

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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    This ain't a one-sided alliance.
    US wants Israel's support as well, it wouldn't give it away because the Israeli government is pro-settlements.
    By the way the aid money mainly goes to US weapons and technologies, and to Israeli researches that develop new technologies given later to the US. (The Arrow system, for example)

    The aid also makes a bit less than 1/6th of Israel's military budget.
    You are right, it's not a one way street, but it is a seriously slanted street. We give much more than we get, and we can easily live without Israel.

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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You are right, it's not a one way street, but it is a seriously slanted street. We give much more than we get, and we can easily live without Israel.
    The lion can live without the lioness, but as long as it gets it food it has no reason to depart.
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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Way to have an optimistic outlook.

    Is it also not possible that his speech could have some positive effects or is Obama incapable of doing any good in your eyes?
    Im pro-Obama but this guy has a point. If Obama adresses the muslim world to try and mend ties and bring the two closer together, the terrorists will likely up there propaganda and attacks on westerners to severe ties further between the two because thats what suits them. They want us to hate them, and they want them to hate us.
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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Im pro-Obama but this guy has a point. If Obama adresses the muslim world to try and mend ties and bring the two closer together, the terrorists will likely up there propaganda and attacks on westerners to severe ties further between the two worlds because thats what suits them.
    According to Obama, there is no terrorism.
    He hasn't used the word terror even once during his speech.
    Instead, he used the word 'violence', as to not to anger the Muslim world.
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."

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