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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    A peace agreement will never happen or be agreed to without Israel taking down it's illegal settlements.
    As i said, Israel wants both without making any sacrifices. They say they want peace and then go and build posts for what i can only describe as crazy settlers.
    New settlements haven't been built for years now.
    The Israeli government has already said that it won't build any new settlements.
    What the US demands is that Israel would halt the progress of the already existing settlements.
    Which is just like telling Israel to destroy the settlements without saying the word destroy.
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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    New settlements haven't been built for years now.
    The Israeli government has already said that it won't build any new settlements.
    What the US demands is that Israel would halt the progress of the already existing settlements.
    Which is just like telling Israel to destroy the settlements without saying the word destroy.
    That's ok with me. Israel wants US aid and support, it can comply or do without.

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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    New settlements haven't been built for years now.
    The Israeli government has already said that it won't build any new settlements.
    What the US demands is that Israel would halt the progress of the already existing settlements.
    Which is just like telling Israel to destroy the settlements without saying the word destroy.
    No, it'll just expand its existing ones using what they call "natural growth" - Which is basically creating new settlements, call it what it is.

    As it should.
    It is not Israel's land. It's Palestinians
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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That's ok with me. Israel wants US aid and support, it can comply or do without.
    This ain't a one-sided alliance.
    US wants Israel's support as well, it wouldn't give it away because the Israeli government is pro-settlements.
    By the way the aid money mainly goes to US weapons and technologies, and to Israeli researches that develop new technologies given later to the US. (The Arrow system, for example)

    The aid also makes a bit less than 1/6th of Israel's military budget.
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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post

    The aid also makes a bit less than 1/6th of Israel's military budget.
    But no veto votes in UN.

    Without US, Israel would be a pariah state. US is what stands between it and Isolation.
    Especially when it comes to resolutions, can you imagine the sanctions othat could have occured on Israel over the last 60 years if US never had the power of veto ... Because none of the others would do what US is willing to do. Russia? Nah. China? Nope. UK? I don't think so.
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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    No, it'll just expand its existing ones using what they call "natural growth" - Which is basically creating new settlements, call it what it is.

    As it should.
    It is not Israel's land. It's Palestinians
    Natural growth is just as it is, a natural growth.
    People have kids, they want a school.
    It can't be called "creating new settlements".

    It is Palestinian land, there is no doubt about it, it'd be used as the territory of the future Palestinian state, and they can take the settlements with them.
    The Zionist Jews had no problem to take the Arabs in after the 1948 war.
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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Natural growth is just as it is, a natural growth.
    People have kids, they want a school.
    It can't be called "creating new settlements".

    It is Palestinian land, there is no doubt about it, it'd be used as the territory of the future Palestinian state, and they can take the settlements with them.
    The Zionist Jews had no problem to take the Arabs in after the 1948 war.
    It is called building new settlements.
    Hand them condoms. If they want children, leave and go into a city. Why is it so difficult to comprehend that is NOT their land to play with?

    BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Jewish settler attack injures Palestinians
    Settlers set fire to Palestinian field in West Bank - Haaretz - Israel News

    Oh yeah, the settlers/Zionists seem so sane .... i can just imagine Palestinians would love to live next to that


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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    But no veto votes in UN.

    Without US, Israel would be a pariah state. US is what stands between it and Isolation.
    Especially when it comes to resolutions, can you imagine the sanctions othat could have occured on Israel over the last 60 years if US never had the power of veto ... Because none of the others would do what US is willing to do. Russia? Nah. China? Nope. UK? I don't think so.
    We've seen how the US vetoed the resolutions during the Gaza operation or the second Lebanon war.
    Israel wouldn't be isolated over the settlement issue, be sure about that.
    If we'd ever be isolated it will be because we became paranoid and obliterated Iran or something.
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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    We've seen how the US vetoed the resolutions during the Gaza operation or the second Lebanon war.
    Israel wouldn't be isolated over the settlement issue, be sure about that.
    If we'd ever be isolated it will be because we became paranoid and obliterated Iran or something.
    Israel would be isolated over that and much more
    Who do you have?
    Europe? Hell no. They have been your biggest critic
    Asia? Nope.
    Africa? Not a hope in hell.

    Israel would be nothing if it didn't have US.
    It is US that protects Israel and makes it slightly relevant to the International Community ... let's be serious.
    If US didn't veto, where would Israel be? The amount of resolutions that would have passed would be huge


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    Re: Will Obama's Cairo speech motivate a new set of terror attacks in the ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It is called building new settlements.
    Hand them condoms. If they want children, leave and go into a city. Why is it so difficult to comprehend that is NOT their land to play with?

    BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Jewish settler attack injures Palestinians
    Settlers set fire to Palestinian field in West Bank - Haaretz - Israel News

    Oh yeah, the settlers/Zionists seem so sane .... i can just imagine Palestinians would love to live next to that
    Wasn't it you who agreed that those headlines are nonsense and it's absurd they make it to the BBC?
    Settlers have radicals, that's no secret.
    Israeli Arabs have radicals as well.

    If the Palestinians can't live with Jews, it's their xenophobic problem.
    We lived with Arabs in our lands 61 years so far, and it wasn't a problem at all.
    They can do whatever they wish to with the settlers, they're not Israeli citizens anyway.
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