All that is needed is once the petition reaches the tipping point and an election is mandated is for the employees to have an election with secret ballots.
That pretty much eliminates the issue of goonion intimidation.
the status quo
the existing 30% showing of interest, followed by an election, will continue to be allowed under the new law
and the union (as well as management) presently receives the signups showing who agreed to be among the 30% ... so how does that eliminate the potential intimidation by the union of the 70% who did not yet sign up
and significantly, how does that prevent the management intimidation of the 30% who did
And the issue is goonion intimidation.
wel, since the union is behind the initiative it would appear you have adopted the management position on the issue
not surprised you would work against your self interest ... much as the red necks who twice elected dicknbush to lower their standard of living. just not smart enough to know they were being played
After all, what's an employee going to do if intimidated by his employer? Natch, he's going goonion, so employers have a natural reluctance to intimidate anyone on that matter.
but if that employee is disciplined and suspended from work without pay ... conincident with the period of the election, he doesn't get to vote. or, more frequently, the employee is terminated for some fabricated reason, which the smart employer, who hired a union busting legal staff to document, will make sure has nothing to do with union organizing - since that is activity protected by law
the union orginizer gets busted and be assured that chills the interest of the other employees. not even close to a level playing field. but again, folks like you are without the wisdom to recognize when they work against their own self interest
But, let's pretend your scenario is likely, though history of goonion behavior in the 20th century says my scenario is more likely by 95%. What better way to prevent employer retribution than a secret ballot?
oops, because the employer knows who that 30% were who signed up to allow an election to proceed, they now know who to get rid of to quell the possible union organizing. what is the use of a secret ballot when the voters are not available to cast their vote
again, putting your profound ignorance on display
as if this whole issue is being pushed by the union bcause of something that has no negative effect on its ability to organize
when you get to high school, they will have this class called "logic". take it
What's wrong with a secret ballot, I ask? The goonions can't find out who to punish.
And not one person surrenders his right to freely assemble by demanding a secret ballot.
nothing is wrong with a secret ballot
the problem is it is not actually a secret ballot
both management and the union are provided a list of those who signed up, which showing of 30% or more authorizes the election to go forward
only in your world would someone believe that the 30% showing of employees is a list of people who are not pro union ...
when in fact they have put their jobs on the line to show their interest in a union presence
and knowing who they are allows the union to intimidate them
secret my ass
the present union organizing practice is to try to solicit the interest of 50% plus one - enough to carry the election, right out of the box. however, the current management practice is to eliminate enough employees from that 50% plus one so that by the time the election is held, it has terminated enough of the "right" employees to keep from losing the election
and it is not that difficult to do, getting rid of "problem" employees who want to start a unionized bargaining unit. especially in these times when there are lots of folks looking for work
that could not happen under the new law
the employers now have a huge advantage and they do not want to give it up
