View Poll Results: Do you favore the Employee Free Choice Act

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    Re: Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I work in a factory and while we have a base starting pay, all our raises are based on performance.

    I make about the same as some who have been there 7 years or so because of my initial performance raise.
    Hmm, maybe it is something that varies by area. Almost every employer I know of in this area, pay is based on seniority for "nonskilled" labor.

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    Re: Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Hmm, maybe it is something that varies by area. Almost every employer I know of in this area, pay is based on seniority for "nonskilled" labor.
    I think it does vary a lot.

    First, it really depends on your corporate structure.

    My company is all gung ho about us being members and not employees.
    We have a lot of ownership possibilities that others don't have but its all related to performance and participation.

    All our bonuses are performance bonuses.
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    Re: Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I think it does vary a lot.

    First, it really depends on your corporate structure.

    My company is all gung ho about us being members and not employees.
    We have a lot of ownership possibilities that others don't have but its all related to performance and participation.

    All our bonuses are performance bonuses.
    For us, "performance bonuses" are profit sharing, which Magna does very well. We get cash and Magna stock each year.

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    Re: Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    For us, "performance bonuses" are profit sharing, which Magna does very well. We get cash and Magna stock each year.
    We just got our profit sharing for the last 6 months. It was ok but lighter than usual which is expected during a recession.

    We have a line efficiency bonus, which can be earned weekly. We are supposed to put out at least X units per hour and if we exceed that we earn what ever percent over the minimum we put out. Example, If we ran at 110% efficiency we earn our regular pay plus 10%.

    We have a quality bonus based on costumer complaints and an in house product audit. Its monthly an can be $25-$100.

    They are changing our safety bonus, so I'm not sure what it will be.

    Stock benefits are nice if you buy into it.
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    Re: Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    We just got our profit sharing for the last 6 months. It was ok but lighter than usual which is expected during a recession.

    We have a line efficiency bonus, which can be earned weekly. We are supposed to put out at least X units per hour and if we exceed that we earn what ever percent over the minimum we put out. Example, If we ran at 110% efficiency we earn our regular pay plus 10%.

    We have a quality bonus based on costumer complaints and an in house product audit. Its monthly an can be $25-$100.

    They are changing our safety bonus, so I'm not sure what it will be.

    Stock benefits are nice if you buy into it.
    Sounds like a really nice system. I am not sure the line bonuses would work for us. Depending on what each line produces, some are trivial to top rate, some are impossible to make rate.

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    Re: Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Sounds like a really nice system. I am not sure the line bonuses would work for us. Depending on what each line produces, some are trivial to top rate, some are impossible to make rate.
    Yea, its not as simple for us as it sounds either.
    Making that extra 10% can be difficult.

    Are you part of line management or are you a line worker?
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    Re: Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Yea, its not as simple for us as it sounds either.
    Making that extra 10% can be difficult.

    Are you part of line management or are you a line worker?
    I am a worker.

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    Re: Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am a worker.
    Me too, I don't know about you guys but were I'm at being in management ain't all its cracked up to be. Long hours, tons of responsibility and not much more pay.

    I had an opportunity and passed it on.
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    Re: Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Indeed....for ought not the freedom to associate include the freedom to dissociate?
    Not according to USSC rulings, in that all male clubs are as rare as hens teeth nowadays, exclusive country clubs can't exclude, and all sorts of other interference in the private lives of the citizens by the rampaging left has damaged the Constitution forever.

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    Re: Employee Free Choice Act

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    some states do authorize an automatic check off. that requires the employees represented by the union to now be required to pay dues whether they agree to join the union or not

    That's plain wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    other states do not compel union dues to be paid by anyone other than union members.
    That's fair.

    If I don't choose to be in someone quilting party, I shouldn't be required to supply the snacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    that allows "free riders" to be represented by the union - as the federal law requires the union represent all bargaining unit members.
    Good for federal law. Does that mean the goonion bosses would be able to spend more time and money schmoozing with Joe Biden at a Florida five start hotel on their dollars, if they could get them?

    It's not like the unions actually help the worker, cuz they don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    those employees realize the rewards of union representation without having to incur the cost. only dues paying union members are able to vote in the union elections, however
    Only goonion members should bear the burden of their parasitic goonion leadership. What could be fairer than that?

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