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  • The court will hear the case (or one like it)

    11 50.00%
  • The court will NOT hear the case (or one like it)

    1 4.55%
  • The court will incorporate the 2nd against the states

    8 36.36%
  • The court will NOT incorporate the 2nd against the states

    4 18.18%
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    2 9.09%
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Thread: Will the SCotUS incorporate the 2nd amendement against the states?

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    Re: Will the SCotUS incorporate the 2nd amendement against the states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I agree... but why even say it?
    Because it sounds tough?
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Will the SCotUS incorporate the 2nd amendement against the states?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I wouldn't be that concerned. That's one of those things that people say, but never actually act on. Every right that exists is currently limited by government in a non-trivial way. If rights were really worth killing over, why aren't people doing it already?

    I like what Heinlein had to say about this matter.

    I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.

    Infringements on rights come in many degrees. While they are tolerable, most of us tolerate them.

    As our own Founders said, people are disposed to tolerate the familiar as long as it is tolerable, even when it infringes on their rights.

    I think every man who has a pair, also has a line in the sand where he will say "No further." That line differs for each man.


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    Re: Will the SCotUS incorporate the 2nd amendement against the states?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I like what Heinlein had to say about this matter.

    Infringements on rights come in many degrees. While they are tolerable, most of us tolerate them.

    As our own Founders said, people are disposed to tolerate the familiar as long as it is tolerable, even when it infringes on their rights.

    I think every man who has a pair, also has a line in the sand where he will say "No further." That line differs for each man.


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    I think that for the vast majority of people, that line is a lot more flexible than they would like to admit.
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    Re: Will the SCotUS incorporate the 2nd amendement against the states?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I think that for the vast majority of people, that line is a lot more flexible than they would like to admit.

    I will not say that you are wrong. IIRC the American Revolution, in its early days, had the active support of only 3% of the population.

    The question is, will the government ever, at some point, step over the "line in the sand" of too many citizens who will take active umbrage?

    Perhaps we will see.


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