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  • Pro-Life are terrorists!

    5 33.33%
  • Pro-Life is only upset that Mr. Tiller was killed in their church and not in his home.

    1 6.67%
  • This is why guns should be illegal!

    2 13.33%
  • ...but dick Cheiny said America was safer under Conservative Policies.

    3 20.00%
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    Re: Which Will Be The More Populer Argument?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwaters View Post
    For pro lifers "late term" means anything after the sperm meets the egg. For the Journal of American Medicine late term is after 20 months of gestation.
    Tiller specialized in specifically doing abortions on women over 22 weeks gestation.

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    Re: Which Will Be The More Populer Argument?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat
    ... I'm only upset because he was killed in church instead of his office or at home. It's grossly disrespectful of God and of the community...
    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm
    Agree; but its is also disrespectful to take a human life , is it not ??
    No, I do not believe it is at all. Sometimes, taking a human life is the highest form of respect-- assisting the suicide of an honored friend, for instance, or dueling to the death. Abortion is not one of those cases, but in many cases it is carried out in respect of the needs of one's family. I don't consider it disrespectful or wrong.

    It is not the killing of Dr. Tiller itself that I find disrespectful. It is the killing of him in a church, which is an insult to the god that church is dedicated to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The fact that the baby-killer was welcome in a church doesn't offend you?
    Not in the slightest. It wasn't my church-- and I shouldn't need to remind you that not every church holds to your pro-life views. Your Bible itself states that God breathes the soul into infants with their first intake of breath, and many worshipers of YHWH-- Jews, Christians, and Muslims alike-- take that as proof that while abortion is wrong, it is not the moral equivalent of murder.

    My ancestors refused to name unwanted newborns and left them in the woods to die. They just held healthy infants in a much higher regard than our modern society seems to.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If Bin Laden or some other scum of the earth terrorist was shot inside a mosque, would any troop supporting American give a **** he was basically shot inside a church?
    I don't understand how any American soldier of Jewish, Christian, or Muslim faith could even fire a shot inside a church, except by deciding to be an American first and putting his faith on a lower priority. I can appreciate this mindset and my faith demands it, but all three of those faiths expressly forbid holding anyone or anything else above their god.

    I'd cheer if Osama bin Laden were killed in a mosque. The difference is, Osama bin Laden is an enemy of America, and an American soldier need not be a Christian. Dr. Tiller was an American, and if his assassin was not putting his nation first and not putting his faith first, then what the Hell are his moral priorities and what are they based on?

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    Re: Which Will Be The More Populer Argument?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Tiller specialized in specifically doing abortions on women over 22 weeks gestation.
    I find it preferable to have a specialist operating on me, and I suppose that should apply to other.

    24 wks is the time limit in the UK

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    Re: Which Will Be The More Populer Argument?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I don't understand how any American soldier of Jewish, Christian, or Muslim faith could even fire a shot inside a church, except by deciding to be an American first and putting his faith on a lower priority.
    I think it has to do with " Oh ****,some terrorist are firing at us,lets get him"


    I'd cheer if Osama bin Laden were killed in a mosque. The difference is, Osama bin Laden is an enemy of America, and an American soldier need not be a Christian. Dr. Tiller was an American, and if his assassin was not putting his nation first and not putting his faith first, then what the Hell are his moral priorities and what are they based on?
    I think his priorities and morality were based on the fact an abortion provider is nothing more than a legalized baby murderer and he felt that obviously no one else was going to do anything and the government condones abortion then something had to be done before he kills more.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Which Will Be The More Populer Argument?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    .....weeks....20 weeks, bro....try getting your own facts correct before slamming pro-life for anything, k?
    You knew exactly what I was talking about Jerry. Do you slam people for typo's too?
    Each one of the founding fathers was a special interest group.

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    Re: Which Will Be The More Populer Argument?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Tiller specialized in specifically doing abortions on women over 22 weeks gestation.
    Abortion is legal under certain circumstances after 22 WEEKS. States have made exceptions to thier bans on late term abortion when the woman's life was at stake and when some other dire circumstances prevailed.
    Each one of the founding fathers was a special interest group.

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    Re: Which Will Be The More Populer Argument?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Maybe he was talking about elephants. Ya never know.

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    You're on the right track...I was..ummm...talking about uhhh......the Dogfish!.....yeah....that's it....the Dogfish....they have a 24 month gestation cycle...one of the longest in the animal kingdom.
    Each one of the founding fathers was a special interest group.

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    Re: Which Will Be The More Populer Argument?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwaters View Post
    Abortion is legal under certain circumstances after 22 WEEKS. States have made exceptions to thier bans on late term abortion when the woman's life was at stake and when some other dire circumstances prevailed.
    Yes it is. If there is "irreversible risk of maternal health" however given that drs. don't have to detail out what that irreversible risk is and simply just have to sign off on the abortion the legislation is meaningless, has no accountability, and completely unregulated. Might as well have no time limit at all since it is simply a matter of the drs. conscious on whether he feels like signing off on it or not. He will never have to go to court and prove - I did this abortion at this many weeks gestation for this specific health risk.

    Ain't law grand? Gotta love those loopholes.

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    Re: Which Will Be The More Populer Argument?

    I hope Roeder gets the maximum sentence under the law for what he did to Dr. Tiller. Anyone who is truly pro-life would condemn such actions, even against those who perform abortions. Disgusting.

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    Re: Which Will Be The More Populer Argument?

    I wonder if any pro-life DP member is willing to adopt a child with severe mental retardation? or massive physical limitations?

    It is one thing to stand on the sidelines and criticize, it is another to care for a helpless being 24/7.
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