View Poll Results: How much should members of the US Congress get paid?

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  • Absolutely Nothing

    3 5.66%
  • Minimum wage + Tips

    7 13.21%
  • $25,000 to $50,000

    12 22.64%
  • $50,000 to $75,000

    4 7.55%
  • $75,000 to $100,000

    10 18.87%
  • $100,000 to $125,000

    0 0%
  • $125,000 to $150,000

    2 3.77%
  • $150,000 to $175,000 (current pay)

    5 9.43%
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Thread: How much should members of the US Congress get paid?

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    Re: How much should members of the US Congress get paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    People who's primary motivation is money and power, usually have some of both before they enter Congress. There are some that I would imagine consider their base pay to be a drop in the bucket. So dropping the salary isn't going to keep them out of power. And slashing salary isn't going to reduce the power they do wield, so the power hungry mongrols will be well fed.

    And I don't think you can just give a base salary to all. $50,000 for a rep from ND and he lives ok. $50,000 for a rep who's district is in NYC, and they work part time in a sex-slave dungeoun to make ends meet.
    A lot of good points there. My idealism occasionally does run away from me, and withthe expenses scandal going on in the UK (one of our MP'S resigned after spending £10000 on a stone duck house, another claiming £16000 for a mortage he'd already paid), I'm ready to just pick all politicians up and shake them upside down til the money we gave them falls back out.

    I'd personally be happy with a salary set at around US $60,000, with the oppurtunity to claim additional funds to ensure one's continued housing etc.
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    Re: How much should members of the US Congress get paid?

    I would actually suggest increasing congressional pay. Not that they deserve any of it, but because it would probably end up being cheaper to the country as a whole.

    One of the things that drastically improved british parliment was the addition of pay. It allowed people who were not independently wealthy to hold office, and reduced the number of people who had to use bribes as their means of income. Even today, in countries where officials get lousy pay, you see them supplementing their income by abusing their office.

    Congress handles so much money that any reduction in corruption outweighs minor increase in their pay. Cynically speaking, a congress persons's salary is just a bribe from the taxpayer, and is weighed against the other bribes from other groups. Paying someone 100k more to avoid a $10,000,000 "subsidy" is ultimately worth it in the long run.

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    Re: How much should members of the US Congress get paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    That seems rather expensive to maintain. Constant ballots over pay? I don't know about that. I'd prefer it less frequent especially since states would have to pick up the tab for the ballot. Maybe every 2 or 4 years?

    $80k seems right to me. About what many judges make. The current $174,000 is ridiculous.
    States have ballot issues all the time,so having ballot issues on whether or not to increase,decrease or keep the pay the same should not be the issue seeing how they can be intergrated with other poll issues.

    In the end in should be up to the tax payers seeing how they are the employers of the politicians. .Do you disagree with this notion?
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    Re: How much should members of the US Congress get paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    One of the things that drastically improved british parliment was the addition of pay. It allowed people who were not independently wealthy to hold office, and reduced the number of people who had to use bribes as their means of income. Even today, in countries where officials get lousy pay, you see them supplementing their income by abusing their office.
    How is campaigning financed in Britain? The biggest problem today in getting into office is paying for the huge campaign finances. Once you're in the pay isn't the real issue. The US is a plutocracy due to essentially election costs.

    Cynically speaking, a congress persons's salary is just a bribe from the taxpayer, and is weighed against the other bribes from other groups. Paying someone 100k more to avoid a $10,000,000 "subsidy" is ultimately worth it in the long run.
    That made me laugh.
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    Re: How much should members of the US Congress get paid?

    I think around $200-225k is a fair amount for the hours they work, the experience they bring, the costs they're required to incur, and the lack of job security.



    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    They should be paid based on performance rating from their constituents. Every year they are up for a raise the public should get to vote on whether or not their representative gets a raise. If the public gets to vote them to congress, it should vote on how much they get paid too.
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It should be however much the tax payers in their district AKA their employers dictate. Politicians seem to be about he only employees on the planet who are able to give themselves pay raises.
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    States have ballot issues all the time,so having ballot issues on whether or not to increase,decrease or keep the pay the same should not be the issue seeing how they can be intergrated with other poll issues.

    In the end in should be up to the tax payers seeing how they are the employers of the politicians. .Do you disagree with this notion?
    Constitution says no to individuated decisions on congressional pay.
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    Re: How much should members of the US Congress get paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    I would actually suggest increasing congressional pay. Not that they deserve any of it, but because it would probably end up being cheaper to the country as a whole.

    One of the things that drastically improved british parliment was the addition of pay. It allowed people who were not independently wealthy to hold office, and reduced the number of people who had to use bribes as their means of income. Even today, in countries where officials get lousy pay, you see them supplementing their income by abusing their office.

    Congress handles so much money that any reduction in corruption outweighs minor increase in their pay. Cynically speaking, a congress persons's salary is just a bribe from the taxpayer, and is weighed against the other bribes from other groups. Paying someone 100k more to avoid a $10,000,000 "subsidy" is ultimately worth it in the long run.
    It sounds great but someone else is always willing to pay them more.
    They will take your 100k extra and the take the 10,000,000 subsidy too.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC
    Constitution says no to individuated decisions on congressional pay.
    The Constitution hasn't mattered for quite some time.
    Why should we let Congress use that as an excuse?
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    Re: How much should members of the US Congress get paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The Constitution hasn't mattered for quite some time.
    Why should we let Congress use that as an excuse?
    Rhetoric aside, do you really think you're going to get the constitution amended so you can implement a program like that?
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    Re: How much should members of the US Congress get paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Rhetoric aside, do you really think you're going to get the constitution amended so you can implement a program like that?
    Nah, I'm just complaining.

    There isn't a pay solution thats going to fix anything.

    The only way to get a better Congress is to not re-elect incumbents.
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    Re: How much should members of the US Congress get paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Vote em out if you are unhappy with the job they are doing. Employing some one you don't consider worthwhile is foolish. If you don't got the votes to do so, tough.
    But what if they suck during a non-election year? Can't do much about that.

    It's a trivial issue, I doubt most members of Congress really care what they make, they get other compensations.
    You do have a point there.
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    Re: How much should members of the US Congress get paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    States have ballot issues all the time,so having ballot issues on whether or not to increase,decrease or keep the pay the same should not be the issue seeing how they can be intergrated with other poll issues.

    In the end in should be up to the tax payers seeing how they are the employers of the politicians. .Do you disagree with this notion?
    Only that I wasn't aware that states set the pay of their Congress members. To enact either your idea or mine, we'd need to take the power away from the federal government and enshrine it with the states in a way that Congress has to jump through flaming hoops and over piranha pits to claw back.
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