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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Nope. However, they will unite against each other.

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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'll be nice.

    You do realize that most of this list is highly improbable? That realistically, the only way you'd get 90% of humanity to accept these terms would be to kill half of them and threaten the other half with like treatment? Because many of us would consider this tyranny of the worst sort.

    Now, I'm beginning to know you a little bit, so I figure your hope is that the world would accept these principles voluntarily, to be "enlightened" as it were.

    IMO, that just isn't ever going to happen.

    Addressing the religion issue specifically:

    Here in the USA, while Christianity may be the majority, there are a VAST number of religions. My Quicky-mart guy is a Pakistani Muslim; my best buddy is an Agnostic; some of my friends are Pagans, another is Jewish. We even discuss religion fairly often; yet no one has killed anyone, or even punched anyone.
    This is a microcosm of the USA. Here in the US it is very rare that anyone kills over religion, yet we debate it vociferously.

    I submit that it is not religion, itself, that needs to go, but the willingness to kill over religion. (Which willingness, just to note, seems to be most common in the Mideast these days.)

    I think it's obvious by now that I take my beliefs very seriously, yet I have no desire to force my agnostic friend to become Christian through legislation or force. My beliefs do not permit "forced conversions" because my beliefs require conversion to be a choice. Force negates choice.

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    Another fine post. I have a set of political beliefs and principles that run directly in line with the truth of a Utopian Socialism. I don't mind that I am in the minority.

    It would not work for me or any other to inflict these standards on anyone else. What is required is a radical change in the thinking of people. I don't expect to see that in my lifetime. I do intend to live my ideals now on a small scale that has been growing now for years.

    I can agree with what you are saying with regard to religion. That is true. The difficulty with that in a society is that many people think that their religion is the only right one and want to push that on everyone else.

    Religion in the context that you speak of it is not a problem. It is when Muslims are killing Jews because they are Jews. It was when Christians hate Muslims because of their faith. It is when Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and the rest war over the idea of religion. When people are trying to govern the state by their very specific religious view that they become unwieldy in a society that I describe.

    I understand that you are a man that takes faith seriously and that is great. It is also good that you can have yours and respect others as well.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Nope. However, they will unite against each other.
    Don't they do that already. Are you perfectly happy with the status quo.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    Don't they do that already. Are you perfectly happy with the status quo.
    There are parts of the status quo that I am acceptable of, and ther eare parts of the status quo that I want to change in the opposite direction that you do.
    Let's figure it out.

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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    Don't they do that already. Are you perfectly happy with the status quo.

    I'm perfectly happy acknowledging our reality without insisting on fantasies and dreams to make myself feel better about it. And besides...war is job security for me.

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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlappyTheKinkajou View Post
    I was indeed implying that Inferno is severely misguided.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Do you believe we will ever achieve total acceptance of other ethnicities or religions?
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    As for the thread title "Will people ever truly unite. No because there will always be differences. If you tossed out religion, skin color people will always find differneces. For example look at everyone who opposes illegal immigration,some are conservative some are liberal.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    People are assholes, we need to accept this reality.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    No. Whether you listen to gay activists or white supremacists there are too many people who believe that by the genetics of their birth they are superior to or sexually and relationship excluded from others to instead promote seperate-but-equal segregation. As long as there are large and vocal groups of people who can round up followers on their racial/genetic bigotry message that people are foremost defined at birth by their dna in terms of being exclusive of other people by virtue of their birth and by there dna people can never have harmony.

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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    There's no poll option...


    But yes, people will unite. When there's evidence of a mass alien invasion.
    Damn, you took the words right out of my mouth.
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