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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Not really.
    I can think we can do many things, the reality is very different.
    Wars will always happen, divisions will always be there and deaths will never be a thing of the past. That is reality and that is how the world will always be.

    Peace and love is fictional things, it may work on individual levels but such a thing will never happen with nations. Countries will always look out for their own interest and the protection of their citizens.
    That is true what you are stating. It can never change from that if this is what we believe is our plight. If I believe that I will always be a smoker I more than likely will be. If I believe that I will never be able to read French that is true because I will not even try. If I accept that I will always be in an abusive relationship where my partner always hits me I will continue to allow that to happen. The reality of everything around us is limited only by our ability to accept the worst and not hope for better.

    I don't have any doubt that war is in everyone's future because everyone believes that is so. I know that Utopia is impossible because the world is lined up against it and they say it can't be done. I have no illusions that these things are not true. They are true and will be humanities plight because they want it to stay as it is.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    While your ideas may appeal to many and I see nothing wrong with them for those that share your dream. I believe mankind as a whole would never let this happen. We are a generaly selfish breed.
    I do agree. Humanity refuses to believe in becoming better and more. It is okay.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Of course the human race will never reach 100% acceptance.

    By nature we tend to be greedy, and if setting back one "part" of our race to further our OWN needs is what we see fit.. that's what will happen.

    It's unfortunate, but that's how it goes.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Of course the human race will never reach 100% acceptance.

    By nature we tend to be greedy, and if setting back one "part" of our race to further our OWN needs is what we see fit.. that's what will happen.

    It's unfortunate, but that's how it goes.
    So true. WE are limited in our ability to change because of the wants that most have.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    So true. WE are limited in our ability to change because of the wants that most have.
    I don't sweat it too much.

    Alot of people like to pretend that we are so much better than animals. When in fact, almost everything we do mirrors that of the animal kingdom.

    In some ways, we are even worse at it than them. For some reason, we screw it all up by thinking that our OWN morals are more important or mean more than someone else's.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    So true. WE are limited in our ability to change because of the wants that most have.
    I guess I am somewhere in the middle. I have often thought about a self sufficient community where everyone works for the betterment of the comminity. I would not mind being a part of such a community but I would also like to have ownership of my own property and be the ultimate authority over said property.

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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    I don't sweat it too much.

    Alot of people like to pretend that we are so much better than animals. When in fact, almost everything we do mirrors that of the animal kingdom.

    In some ways, we are even worse at it than them. For some reason, we screw it all up by thinking that our OWN morals are more important or mean more than someone else's.
    I like to think that we can be but alas I am crushed by the status quo all the time. It does not stop me from trying though.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    That is true what you are stating. It can never change from that if this is what we believe is our plight. If I believe that I will always be a smoker I more than likely will be. If I believe that I will never be able to read French that is true because I will not even try. If I accept that I will always be in an abusive relationship where my partner always hits me I will continue to allow that to happen. The reality of everything around us is limited only by our ability to accept the worst and not hope for better.

    I don't have any doubt that war is in everyone's future because everyone believes that is so. I know that Utopia is impossible because the world is lined up against it and they say it can't be done. I have no illusions that these things are not true. They are true and will be humanities plight because they want it to stay as it is.
    It's a lovely dream but it just will not happen. Humans are naturally capable of great evils and are inherently selfish. Nothing will change.
    Perhaps we have stopped evolving :P


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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I guess I am somewhere in the middle. I have often thought about a self sufficient community where everyone works for the betterment of the comminity. I would not mind being a part of such a community but I would also like to have ownership of my own property and be the ultimate authority over said property.
    And eventually the residents of the community to the left will take what your community has worked so hard to achieve.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    I like to think that we can be but alas I am crushed by the status quo all the time. It does not stop me from trying though.
    And I believe this is what freedom is all about. We may have seemingly unachievable dreams but that will never stop us from trying. The only sure way at failure is to give up.

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