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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    I can see getting clubed like a harp seal for this response.

    We can unite but some ideas need to be discarded with first.

    1. Religion needs to go.
    2. Private propertty needs to go.
    3. Nations and references to national pride need to go.
    4. Borders need to fade.
    5. Universal money.
    6. universal language would have to be in the works.
    7. The UN or a group like that would have to take change.

    Individual nation states could no longer exist.

    IMO religion is the biggest barrier to unity.
    Yes. And along with all of that goes any meaningful self-determination.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    What is required is a radical change in the thinking of people.
    You are pretty much saying that your way of thinking -- your views, including religion -- is the correct way, and everyone else is wrong.

    If you weren't, then you wouldn't say that people's thinking needs to change.

    Therefore, you are exactly what you claim to be against.

    Not that it makes you in any way unique, mind you.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yes. And along with all of that goes any meaningful self-determination.
    For some but not everyone. I have thought about this alot over the past few days and have come to the opinion that I fully support this type of community if it is a voluntary endeavour. But like everything else I would be against a government forcing it on anyone. I fully believe that the government has no right to decide our actions as long as it is in no way harmful to others.

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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You are pretty much saying that your way of thinking -- your views, including religion -- is the correct way, and everyone else is wrong.

    If you weren't, then you wouldn't say that people's thinking needs to change.

    Therefore, you are exactly what you claim to be against.

    Not that it makes you in any way unique, mind you.
    The views that I have on religion are mine and they are the views of the commune to which i do belong. They like all of the planks of our specific constitution are always open to be revised. If there seems to be a need to open a new dialogue than it will be done. For now this is the rule that we have. Nothing is etched in stone.

    As we move into the rural community and open a school that will be open to any child within the larger community we may have to reconsider the rules. The natural community is religious. There are a lot of people that have approached us on having their children attend a free private school in the area where no busing would be needed. If the kids come we will open the doors.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yes. And along with all of that goes any meaningful self-determination.
    No true. If you want to be part of what we are doing than you already agree. If you don't agree then you have self determined not to come along.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    For some but not everyone. I have thought about this alot over the past few days and have come to the opinion that I fully support this type of community if it is a voluntary endeavour. But like everything else I would be against a government forcing it on anyone. I fully believe that the government has no right to decide our actions as long as it is in no way harmful to others.
    If that's how people want to go off and live in their little corner, that's fine with me.

    But the context of the post to which I responded contemplated a worldwide implementation.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    No true. If you want to be part of what we are doing than you already agree. If you don't agree then you have self determined not to come along.
    You're talking about getting rid of private property, of nation-states, of all sorts of things which indicate you mean for everyone to live that way.
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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    What is required is a radical change in the thinking of people.
    You are a person. Radically change your way of thinking.
    Let's figure it out.

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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    I like to think i do get on with people of different races just as well as with my own.Religions are different because at a fundamentalist level they contradict each other.
    The third-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the majority. The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the minority. The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking.

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    Re: Will people ever truly unite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You're talking about getting rid of private property, of nation-states, of all sorts of things which indicate you mean for everyone to live that way.
    Yeah i think it would be nice. But it would have to be done nation by nation. It would be an evolutionary process.
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