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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Uh, that minimizes the radiation that actually has any effect. The greater the distance, especially when it comes to atmospheric particles that absorb the radiation, the less damage you do. You need to do close to the target. The optimal range is around 600 meters, which is about 1/3 of a mile which will still cause considerable damage to the target infrastructure. 10 km may not have any real impact whatsoever as that's 10,000 meters, well beyond the optimal range to remove armor.
    Fast Neutrons aren't just "radiation", they are particles that travel great distances until "thermalized". Think sandblasting, intense sandblasting.....
    And the troops that don't die soon will be too sick to fight.
    I am a former navy nuke, and know a bit more than you about this. It seems that without the proper education, most people don't understand the info they find on line...
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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Neutron Bomb - Canada's Aerospace and Defence Weekly - TWR - Editor: Micheal J. O'Brien

    a good link that explains it better than I did, and gives some good history...
    essentially, the range of death is extended considerably, while the range of blast damage is minimized, and residual radiation is also minimized, so that the land can be reoccupied in a short time instead of waiting years...
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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    The U.S. has had enhanced radiation weapons for years.

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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You think China has 200 bombs they can send to the US.
    Well, Bernie Schwartz did pay Clinton hundreds of thousands of dollars to be allowed to sell MIRV technology to the Chinese, so we can no longer discuss their Long Shot rocket and have to use the name the Chinese gave it, the Long March.

    That's one thing.

    They might have two hundred of the things by now. After all, no one on the left is capable of considering the Chinese as anything but a poor third world nation "down trodden" (ranks up there for cliche use with "hyperpartisn") by the evil America.

    Meanwhile, the Messiah is going to further reduce our nuclear stockpile to a thousand, effectively eliminating our deterrent force.

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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Delivered in 30 minutes or less, or they're free.
    Don't forget that the Messiah is cutting back SDI research, which means the enemy will know that the bombs they launch will hit their targets if their own missiles are reliable.

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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Fast Neutrons aren't just "radiation", they are particles that travel great distances until "thermalized".
    Not as far as you think they do.

    Is the Neutron Bomb Ready? - TIME

    And the troops that don't die soon will be too sick to fight
    While this is true, neutron radiation does leave open significent periods of time where they can indeed act.

    It seems that without the proper education, most people don't understand the info they find on line...
    Your link really wasn't all that helpful. As explained earlier, the radius of lethal radiation isn't that far while the damage while far less than a regular nuclear weapon is still significant. Given the senario Scarecrow gave, we'd need to use thousands of these, resulting in massive overall damage. Scarecrow seems to think that the neutron bomb is a box that just releases neutrons and causes no physical damage.
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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What is the relative size and strength of the militaries? The goal in war is not and should not be to destroy all the people of a nation.
    A goal of war is to add territory; unless all of the people in this territory are either killed or chased out, nothing is accomplished...
    Hopefully, man will become civilized and this sort of discussion would be mute.

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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Not as far as you think they do.

    Is the Neutron Bomb Ready? - TIME



    While this is true, neutron radiation does leave open significent periods of time where they can indeed act.



    Your link really wasn't all that helpful. As explained earlier, the radius of lethal radiation isn't that far while the damage while far less than a regular nuclear weapon is still significant. Given the senario Scarecrow gave, we'd need to use thousands of these, resulting in massive overall damage. Scarecrow seems to think that the neutron bomb is a box that just releases neutrons and causes no physical damage.
    The most effective use is against armor, as in tanks. Given the abilities of our tank busting warthogs and helicopters, I'd say that the neutron bomb is a waste of resources, with the one exception as I previously stated.
    Millions of troops and armor pouring across a relatively narrow choke point of land would be stopped in their tracks. That is the situation in NK.
    South Korean cities are within range of most of NK weapons, so any attack, stopped in its tracks or not, will be messy. But if it happens, I hope we take out 110% of NK's ability to wage war.
    Heinlein, scifi author, says an armed society is a polite society. Everybody is a threat to everybody else....so choose your words and actions carefully.
    In theory, it should work, but in fact, some are crazy and/or have a deathwish. NK is led by crazies...and crazies should not be allowed weapons of any kind...
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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    A goal of war is to add territory; unless all of the people in this territory are either killed or chased out, nothing is accomplished...
    Hopefully, man will become civilized and this sort of discussion would be mute.
    moot, not mute...
    There are still some territorial disputes going on, but I have to wonder if those aren't just covers for just plain old revenge and hatred for deeds done decades ago, and longer.
    If we found a place suitable and acceptable to the Jews to move to, and there were none left in the ME, it would make next to no difference. The Arab countries would still be fighting each other. Islam is a fractured religion, not as bad as baptists, but still, fractured...
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    Post Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    According to the limited information available, a neutron bomb kills many people by radiation, but has a very weak explosion that leaves the infrastructure intact.

    This can be a very decisive advantage in a situation where an enemy has invaded a sizable portion of our country and has run out the civilians. Drop a neutron bomb, and the enemy is quickly destroyed.

    Another advantage is that the radiation is short lived. Soon the bombed area can be re-occupied.

    A conventional or regular nuclear war would be very messy and expensive.

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