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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The Great Swim Forward?

    The notion that China can actually pull off an invasion of the US is pretty insane as you pointed out. Especially since they'd have no friendly support bases like we do in the Middle East and Europe.

    Plus, what's scarecrow's fascination with numbers?

    Numbers alone, as Sun Tzu teaches, confer no advantage.
    Pretending the Chinese will continue to remain technological inferiors is pretty ignorant.

    Especially considering their continued massive efforts at industrial espionage at all levels.

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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    As for the neurtron bomb question, it's a silly idea. First of all, it would indiscriminately kill everyone,
    Right.

    The US military high command would never think of air bursting neutron weapons over the heads of the enemy army or naval forces, oh no. The only possible place neutron weapons could ever possibly be used is over densely populated civillian population centers of limited military value.

    /sarcasm off.

    Where the hell do all you people that are so ignorant of military strategy come from, anyways, public schools?


    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Secondary to that, China's full military power is not currently known. There are some ideas in terms of manpower, based on the sheer numbers of their people, but in terms of armaments, we simply don't know within accurate reason.
    So you're arguing that we should assume the smallest estimates are correct and base our military assessments and planning on that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    In any case, a war with China would be mutually assured destruction on an economic level. The U.S. would become a second class power overnight, and China would lose all of the developments it has from the past 20-30 years.
    Then again, in the real world, what the hell is China going to do when The Messiah totally devalues the US currency and wrecks the Chinese investment in the US?

    Study any history, boy? War is an expression of economic conflict.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    No... China is not interested in conventional war.
    That's why they've built a supersonic ballistic missile against which our carrier fleets currently have no defense against, because the Chinese love peace so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Its war is economic in nature, and it's winning on a global scale. This fantasy about a Chinese invasion is just non-sense. China has no desire to expand in that manner.
    So you do not understand the concept of threat assessment, nor do you understand what really happens outside you house.

    Nor did you ever see me say that it's extremely likely the US would be invaded. I said it's wise to be prepared.

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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I was under the impression that we already had developed the Neutron bomb.
    I was under the impression that after we destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki we continued research and development on nuclear weapons.

    We stopped neutron bomb research a while ago, merely because nations who could not keep up with us whined about it.

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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    No... China is not interested in conventional war. Its war is economic in nature, and it's winning on a global scale. This fantasy about a Chinese invasion is just non-sense. China has no desire to expand in that manner.
    Since Korea and Tibet...China has shown no imperialistic intentions. I lived in China during 1986 and many of the people I talked to pointed to a long history where China has never mounted a global conquest like The British Empire, Germany, Japan, or the Ottomans have.

    Why is it Americans think that anyone who CAN conquer someone else...will.

    China could have completely absoarbed Vietnam after we left, and Cambodia, Thailand, and Burma. But they didn't. Right now China could take over Korea, Taiwan, or Japan and we couldn't stop them, are they doing it?

    The right in this country is getting so paranoid. They need to stop believing the Conservative media scaremongering
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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwaters View Post
    Why is it Americans think that anyone who CAN conquer someone else...will.
    Why is it that people think that just because someone hasn't committed murder can't?

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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Why is it that people think that just because someone hasn't committed murder can't?
    Here...this would be analogous to my original analogy: Why is it that people think that just because someone hasn't committed murder they wont"

    Nobody thinks China is an incapable military power. Not even the most leftist liberal out there.

    At any rate...if history is a yardstick...The US is far more likely to invade independant nations than China. Maybe they should worry about a bunch of righties pulling a Dr Strangelove here in the US.
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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Since China has 1,300 million people and the United States has less than a quarter of that, should the United States resume intensive studies of enhanced radiation weapons to prepare for possible future armed conflict with an enemy that could field an army four times the size of ours?

    I argue that it may become necessary for the US to employ nuclear weapons on US soil, and in that event, it would be ideal to minimize the damage from blast and fallout and concentrate the weapon's effects on the enemy invaders.
    China does not and will not have any capacity to invade the US.

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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwaters View Post
    Here...this would be analogous to my original analogy: Why is it that people think that just because someone hasn't committed murder they wont"

    Nobody thinks China is an incapable military power. Not even the most leftist liberal out there.

    At any rate...if history is a yardstick...The US is far more likely to invade independant nations than China. Maybe they should worry about a bunch of righties pulling a Dr Strangelove here in the US.
    I don't fear China invading the United States - at least not anytime in the forseeable future.

    My concern is that mainland China (the PRC) decides to retake Taiwan (the ROC), which they've always regarded as a renegade province ever since Chiang Kai-shek and the Kuomintang fled there in 1949 during the Chinese civil war.

    Then what does the United States do? Does the U.S. honor it's defense commitments to Taiwan? Or, does the U.S. learn the lesson of Vietnam, and stay out of what is essentially a Chinese civil war?
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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    China will never militarily invade the United States, nor do they wish to police the world as the U.S. tends to like to do. But what China will do is eclipse the U.S. in economic power, and I think they will definitely use this power to sway many things including Taiwan relations.

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    Re: Neutron Bomb Question

    Altho the chinese have enough troops to occupy the USA, getting them here in secret will be hard to do.
    The only place I can see us using neutron bombs is directly over North Korean troops if they should attack South Korea. All those troops massed in a relatively small area, perfect use for it....
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