View Poll Results: Are you getting prepared?

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  • I have already done it.

    6 15.38%
  • I am doing it right now.

    6 15.38%
  • I am starting right now.

    0 0%
  • I'll begin in less than a year.

    1 2.56%
  • I'll get ready within 2 years.

    0 0%
  • I'll take some limited measuers.

    1 2.56%
  • I'll wait and see what happens. Then I'll act.

    6 15.38%
  • I am not worried. I trust Obama's policies.

    10 25.64%
  • I don't care. I'll just accept my fate.

    4 10.26%
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    5 12.82%
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    Re: Are you getting prepared?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Because they think that somehow the country is going to fall apart tomorrow. They have been thinking this for 20 years.
    I imagine they donít have a time table as you claimed but correctly view the path this nation is heading down is not sustainable.

    Because they are convinced that each of the last few presidents and congresses is out to get them.
    Example?

    The one who was a Michigan Militiaman, and his bunch, think that we should have an armed revolution. He scares me.
    They have a point. Millions of Americanís are forced into a social construct that they find disgusting and immoral. If they do not agree with a huge central government and a planned economy, must they just accept the tyranny of the majority?

    Honestly, You should be scared that millions of citizens are alienated and angry and their numbers are growing larger. It is a large reason why modern day liberalism is a danger to us all as it weakens the spirit of the populous to defend the country we do have.

    I know some will say they should just move if you donít like it. Iím damn glad that was not the mentality taken when the nation was founded.

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    Re: Are you getting prepared?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I imagine they donít have a time table as you claimed but correctly view the path this nation is heading down is not sustainable.
    Unsustainable may be accurate, though I am not convinced that this has been the case for the last 20 years. However, unsustainable does not mean that society is going to fall apart into a lawless mob.

    Example?
    Best example is they feel that the government is using taxes to hold them down. Of course, they depend on what their taxes pay for.

    They have a point. Millions of Americanís are forced into a social construct that they find disgusting and immoral. If they do not agree with a huge central government and a planned economy, must they just accept the tyranny of the majority?

    Honestly, You should be scared that millions of citizens are alienated and angry and their numbers are growing larger. It is a large reason why modern day liberalism is a danger to us all as it weakens the spirit of the populous to defend the country we do have.

    I know some will say they should just move if you donít like it. Iím damn glad that was not the mentality taken when the nation was founded.
    There is a huge difference between working to improve your country, which I support every one doing, and suggesting an armed revolt that would lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths. One is a good thing, one is something no one except extremist nutjobs would recommend.

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    Re: Are you getting prepared?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Unsustainable may be accurate, though I am not convinced that this has been the case for the last 20 years. However, unsustainable does not mean that society is going to fall apart into a lawless mob.
    Iím quite convinced we have been on a trajectory for completely falling apart since 1913. You canít allow individuals to vote themselves wealth and expect to sustain a functioning democracy. I donít know when it will all come crashing down, but I know it will.

    Best example is they feel that the government is using taxes to hold them down. Of course, they depend on what their taxes pay for.
    Iím still not sure what you are talking about. I suspect you donít truly understand the fears your neighbors hold though.

    If someone takes over half of what I produce in the various forms of taxation, I am likely dependent on them. Seems pretty silly to then say I am dependent on what taxes pay for. Give me back the 50% of my productivity you took, and we will see just how dependant I am.

    There is a huge difference between working to improve your country, which I support every one doing, and suggesting an armed revolt that would lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths. One is a good thing, one is something no one except extremist nutjobs would recommend.
    Extreme nutjobs revolted over these very same issues to found this nation. They did not like a far off government dictating to them how to operate, even though they did not suffer even close to the same level of governance from England that we face form Washington today.

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    Re: Are you getting prepared?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post

    Extreme nutjobs revolted over these very same issues to found this nation. They did not like a far off government dictating to them how to operate, even though they did not suffer even close to the same level of governance from England that we face form Washington today.
    You need to study history a little better. I learned more details than that in High School.

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    Re: Are you getting prepared?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You need to study history a little better. I learned more details than that in High School.
    What you learned in high school is quite likely to be bull****

    If you have anything specific you would like to debate, bring it. I will gladly wipe your pompous ass with my knowledge of American History.

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    Re: Are you getting prepared?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    What you learned in high school is quite likely to be bull****

    If you have anything specific you would like to debate, bring it. I will gladly wipe your pompous ass with my knowledge of American History.
    We will start easy for you. A key concept of the revolution was "taxation without representation". This is not nearly the situation we have today, where every two years we vote for our representatives.

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    Re: Are you getting prepared?

    Those 40% do not include me. I am not concerned. I don't worry about such things. My karma is to in order. Things are looking good. If the worlds coffee supply holds out I will be in a good humor.

    IMO that is nonsense. Why would a person waste time living in fear. I have better things to do.
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    Re: Are you getting prepared?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We will start easy for you. A key concept of the revolution was "taxation without representation". This is not nearly the situation we have today, where every two years we vote for our representatives.
    Taxation without representation was a nice rally cry, but we never lived up to such a lofty standard, even after winning the war. Consent of the governed was the true cause of the revolution and is why we were not a pure democracy, but a representative republic. I hardly see how that can be claimed today.

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    Re: Are you getting prepared?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We will start easy for you. A key concept of the revolution was "taxation without representation". This is not nearly the situation we have today, where every two years we vote for our representatives.
    Yeah, now we have even more taxation WITH representation.

    How is that a benefit?

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    Re: Are you getting prepared?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Taxation without representation was a nice rally cry, but we never lived up to such a lofty standard, even after winning the war. Consent of the governed was the true cause of the revolution and is why we were not a pure democracy, but a representative republic. I hardly see how that can be claimed today.
    You do not think the fact that you can vote out those who represent you if you disagree, and vote in those you do agree with does not qualify? Are you really going to compare a situation where we had no voice in our governance, to the situation today?

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