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Thread: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

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    What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    What will happen if the Gitmo were transported to jail facilities in the U.S.?

    Tell me, tell me.


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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    I'm thinking they wouldn't last long if they were put in with the general population.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Nothing of note will happen. They will be detained in other facilities, tried eventually, and whatever is appropriate done to them post trial.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    • al-Qaeda would be able to tap a new population of recruits.
    • Prison riots would increase.
    • the new al-Qaeda recruits, upon release, would bring domestic terrorism into our current stew of social problems.

    If they have no more information to divulge, execute the lot of them and be done with it. Bullets are cheaper than beds for life.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Exactly what should happen. They will be given fair trials. They will have an opportunity, as ALL human beings should, to confront their accusers and present the evidence in their favor. If found guilty, they will be sentenced appropriately.

    Do we really want to become a country that incarcerates people on the basis of suspicion, without a fair trial? REALLY?

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Exactly what should happen. They will be given fair trials. They will have an opportunity, as ALL human beings should, to confront their accusers and present the evidence in their favor. If found guilty, they will be sentenced appropriately.

    Do we really want to become a country that incarcerates people on the basis of suspicion, without a fair trial? REALLY?
    Why, why, in the name of all that is right and holy WHY do some people persist in this maddening delusion that the terrorists at Gitmo are criminals who require fair trials and fair sentences?

    They are illegal enemy combatants captured in battle and properly detained until their terrorist organizations either cease to exist or until they die. There should be no trial, no punitive action of any kind. They have no right to any such charity, for they are not criminals. They are terrorists. There is a difference.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Why, why, in the name of all that is right and holy WHY do some people persist in this maddening delusion that the terrorists at Gitmo are criminals who require fair trials and fair sentences?

    They are illegal enemy combatants captured in battle and properly detained until their terrorist organizations either cease to exist or until they die. There should be no trial, no punitive action of any kind. They have no right to any such charity, for they are not criminals. They are terrorists. There is a difference.
    A few reasons:

    1) A fair and open trial is an essential human right that separates free and open societies from tyrannies.

    2) Because it demonstrates to the world the difference between us and the closed societies we are trying to reform.

    3) Because it will ultimately HELP our efforts in the middle east, and the hard work of our soldiers.

    Those are the main reasons.

    Your post is a misguided attempt to slice the line of human dignity so finely that you will push us, as a nation, over the line into tyranny and shame.

    I don't care that they are terrorists. They are human beings accused of criminal acts. That's enough for me.

    Punish them to the the fullest extent of the law, up to and including execution. But do it legally and in full view of the world, in such a way that who we are is made clear to all.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Why, why, in the name of all that is right and holy WHY do some people persist in this maddening delusion that the terrorists at Gitmo are criminals who require fair trials and fair sentences?
    Because not everyone in Gitmo was a terrorist. We had bounties out on turn ins. 5,000 bucks; huge money in the area we concentrated on. You turn people in, you get 5,000 bucks. How much would it take to get you to turn in your neighbor you hate? What I find maddening is the delusion that somehow everyone in Gitmo was picked up fighting American troops and that they were all terrorists. They weren't. That's why we're in this mess from the get go. Things would have been a hell of a lot easier if they were all terrorists.
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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Because not everyone in Gitmo was a terrorist. We had bounties out on turn ins. 5,000 bucks; huge money in the area we concentrated on. You turn people in, you get 5,000 bucks. How much would it take to get you to turn in your neighbor you hate? What I find maddening is the delusion that somehow everyone in Gitmo was picked up fighting American troops and that they were all terrorists. They weren't. That's why we're in this mess from the get go. Things would have been a hell of a lot easier if they were all terrorists.
    What bothers me is the use of this term terrorist, as if it means someone who was adjudicated guilty.

    These people in GITMO are SUSPECTS. Suspects who were deprived of a trial. That's b.s. You say they're guilty? Then it should be easy to adjudicate them as such.

    It's a way of avoiding basic human rights, while pretending that butter wouldn't melt in your mouth and you were trying to do so for our protection.

    B.s. -- God protect me from people who want to incarcerate suspects without a trial. That alarms me far more than terrorism.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    • al-Qaeda would be able to tap a new population of recruits.
    • Prison riots would increase.
    • the new al-Qaeda recruits, upon release, would bring domestic terrorism into our current stew of social problems.
    Proof? As so many here seem to jump up-n-down about, where are the citations and substantive proof behind these assumptions you've made about what may happen if Gitmo detainees were incarcerated here on US soil?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    If they have no more information to divulge, execute the lot of them and be done with it. Bullets are cheaper than beds for life.
    Impressive. A violent response to a culture/group of people. Hmmm, is that not what many complain so loudly about with regard to Muslims and Islam in general? That they, and their religion, are violent nasty people? Your concluding statements sure make American Independent Libertarians look similar.

    Personally, I'll stand with Catz Part Deux on the human, civilized side of this fence. I don't choose to have an attitude that can be equated with those we, as a nation, are fighting against.

    Nothing will happen if detainees are brought here and incarcerated. So long, of course, as those who want to promote and perpetuate violence and hatred don't stir the general population up so much that incidents are caused as a result of the stirring rather than the actual detainees' presence.

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