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Thread: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    • al-Qaeda would be able to tap a new population of recruits.
    • Prison riots would increase.
    • the new al-Qaeda recruits, upon release, would bring domestic terrorism into our current stew of social problems.

    If they have no more information to divulge, execute the lot of them and be done with it. Bullets are cheaper than beds for life.
    Actually, they'd almost certainly join Jamiyyat Ul Islam Is Saheeh - the radical Muslim prison gang.

    Then they'd get their asses beatdown by a combined allegiance of the Aryan Brotherhood, the Black Guerilla Family, and La Nuestra Familia - who would immediately go back to beating each other down after they took care of JUIIS.

    Maybe this is what is meant by the saying "Politics makes for strange bedfellows!"

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Okay. You win. I rephrase. Happy now? Are we in agreement?
    Nope.

    When you're captured on the battlefield fighting against our troops, you arent detained because you've committed a crime, you're detained because you are a combatant that was fighting our troops. You dont have a right to a trial because there's nothing to charge you for or try you for.

    "Unlawful" means that you aren't following the rules of warfare, not that you are breaking come criminal law, and so being an 'unlawful enemy combatant' doesnt grant you any rights under the usual criminal codes.

    And so, not ALL enemy combatants have a right to a fair trial, to confront their accusers and present the evidence in their favor, or to some finite sentence.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Nope.

    When you're captured on the battlefield fighting against our troops, you arent detained because you've committed a crime, you're detained because you are a combatant that was fighting our troops. You dont have a right to a trial because there's nothing to charge you for or try you for.

    "Unlawful" means that you aren't following the rules of warfare, not that you are breaking come criminal law, and so being an 'unlawful enemy combatant' doesnt grant you any rights under the usual criminal codes.

    And so, not ALL enemy combatants have a right to a fair trial, to confront their accusers and present the evidence in their favor, or to some finite sentence.
    Where all of the prisoners held in Gitmo captured on the battlefield? or is this all a red herring?

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Where all of the prisoners held in Gitmo captured on the battlefield? or is this all a red herring?
    I am not the person that qualified his statement with an "all".

    I -did- state that "not all enemy combatants have a right to a fair trial, to confront their accusers and present the evidence in their favor, or to some finite sentence" because some of them WERE captured as combatants on the battlefield.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I am not the person that qualified his statement with an "all".

    I -did- state that "not all enemy combatants have a right to a fair trial, to confront their accusers and present the evidence in their favor, or to some finite sentence" because some of them WERE captured as combatants on the battlefield.
    I would still argue that a trial would be a good thing. This "war" shows no sign of ending, so why hold people forever who are unlikely to be a threat?

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I would still argue that a trial would be a good thing.
    With what, exactly, do you charge those 200,000 Germans we captured in Tunisa?

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Nope.

    When you're captured on the battlefield fighting against our troops, you arent detained because you've committed a crime, you're detained because you are a combatant that was fighting our troops. You dont have a right to a trial because there's nothing to charge you for or try you for.

    "Unlawful" means that you aren't following the rules of warfare, not that you are breaking come criminal law, and so being an 'unlawful enemy combatant' doesnt grant you any rights under the usual criminal codes.

    And so, not ALL enemy combatants have a right to a fair trial, to confront their accusers and present the evidence in their favor, or to some finite sentence.
    Wrong. Unlawful combatants DO, in fact, have a right to trial, per the U.S. Supreme Court, 1942. Do you have significant authority to overrule them?

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    With what, exactly, do you charge those 200,000 Germans we captured in Tunisa?
    I am not talking about Germans, you are.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    With what, exactly, do you charge those 200,000 Germans we captured in Tunisa?
    They were captured as POWs. You understand the concept of a POW, right? POWs aren't given trials, they are held until the cessation of hostilities so they cannot resume fighting.


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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not talking about Germans, you are.
    Not very articulately, either.

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