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Thread: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    • al-Qaeda would be able to tap a new population of recruits.
    • Prison riots would increase.
    • the new al-Qaeda recruits, upon release, would bring domestic terrorism into our current stew of social problems.

    If they have no more information to divulge, execute the lot of them and be done with it. Bullets are cheaper than beds for life.
    Where do you get the idea that holding these people in the US equates to releasing them in the US? The one does not necessarily follow the other.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Why, why, in the name of all that is right and holy WHY do some people persist in this maddening delusion that the terrorists at Gitmo are criminals who require fair trials and fair sentences?

    They are illegal enemy combatants captured in battle and properly detained until their terrorist organizations either cease to exist or until they die. There should be no trial, no punitive action of any kind. They have no right to any such charity, for they are not criminals. They are terrorists. There is a difference.
    Any number of the "illegal enemy combatants"(does any one else notice the preponderance of clever euphemisms from our friends on the right designed to hide their real meaning?) have already had to be released because they did not actually do nothing wrong. The purpose of a trial is to find out if some one is actually guilty of a crime.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    • al-Qaeda would be able to tap a new population of recruits.
    • Prison riots would increase.
    • the new al-Qaeda recruits, upon release, would bring domestic terrorism into our current stew of social problems.

    If they have no more information to divulge, execute the lot of them and be done with it. Bullets are cheaper than beds for life.
    Speaking of hysteria, see above.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Exactly what should happen. They will be given fair trials. They will have an opportunity, as ALL human beings should, to confront their accusers and present the evidence in their favor. If found guilty, they will be sentenced appropriately.
    In 1943, we captured more than 200,000 Germans in Tunisia.
    All of these people should have had an opporunity to confront their accuser?
    And, what should they have been tried for?
    Last edited by Goobieman; 05-28-09 at 12:59 PM.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    In 1943, we captured more than 200,000 Germans in Tunisia.
    All of these people should have had an opporunity to confront their accuser?
    And, what should they have been tried for?
    Were they designated as unlawful combatants? Or, were they part of the civilian populace?

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Were they designated as unlawful combatants? Or, were they part of the civilian populace?
    Not relevant to your position, as you're discussin ALL human beings.

    So...?

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Not relevant to your position, as you're discussin ALL human beings.

    So...?

    Actually, it is relevant. these individuals in gitmo are being detained as unlawful COMBATANTS. The supreme court decision in 1942 stated clearly that such individuals are subject to TRIAL by military tribunal.

    Nice dodge, though. You're really quite graceful. Are you, perchance, a gymnast?


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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Any number of the "illegal enemy combatants"(does any one else notice the preponderance of clever euphemisms from our friends on the right designed to hide their real meaning?) have already had to be released because they did not actually do nothing wrong. The purpose of a trial is to find out if some one is actually guilty of a crime.
    As someone who predominately resides slightly to the right of the middle of the spectrum, let me state clearly that a LOT of us understand this concept, and how the term "enemy combatants" is nothing more than a cleverly disguised way of acting unlawfully.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Actually, it is relevant.
    It WOULD be relevant had you stated:

    Exactly what should happen. They will be given fair trials. They will have an opportunity, as ALL unlawful combatants should, to confront their accusers and present the evidence in their favor. If found guilty, they will be sentenced appropriately.
    But, you didn't.

    So, my questions stand.

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    Re: What Happens To Gitmo Detainees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    It WOULD be relevant had you stated:

    But, you didn't.
    Okay. You win. I rephrase. Happy now? Are we in agreement?

    I do believe, as our founding fathers did, that a free and just society gives people accused of criminal acts access to a trial. EVEN IF they are unlawful combatants.

    Hope that helps to clarify my position.

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