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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Of course it's obvious. What were the predictions about Obama's pick? Female, probably hispanic, maybe black.

    Who'd he pick?

    A latina.

    The appellate guru in my office is a liberal Harvard Law Magna cum laude-a former appellate clerk etc. When SDO decided to step down, I asked him who should Bush pick?

    Right away he said John Roberts-he said Roberts was the very best legal scholar available who was a republican


    When I asked him about replacing Souter, it always came down to "well since he wants a woman and probably a hispanic">>>>>>>>>>>>


    No one believes QuotaMayor was the best available liberal jurist. She was the best available Latina though
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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Which is worse?

    Seeking a specific race/gender for a supreme court pick (something there is no evidence of in Obama's pick).

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    Automatically condemning a pick because the pick happens to be female and Hispanic.


    The second is worse, and since conservatives are calling it reverse racism or whatever other racism happens to be in their back pocket at the time, the second statement is more racist actually.

    It suggests that someone who is both a female and Hispanic cannot be approved for The Court because of her race and gender.

    It is far worse to automatically condemn a supreme court pick because of race and gender, as many conservatives were predetermined to do.


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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    No evidence in Obama's pick? Surely you must be joking. The entire list of finalists were all female. NONE OF THEM are close to being the best available choices. The Former governor of Arizona or the governor of Michigan? Good God.
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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    No evidence in Obama's pick? Surely you must be joking. The entire list of finalists were all female. NONE OF THEM are close to being the best available choices. The Former governor of Arizona or the governor of Michigan? Good God.
    Hey, Carlos Moreno was TOTALLY a legitimate finalist. It's CRAZY to claim that he was only on the finalist list as the token guy.
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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Hey, Carlos Moreno was TOTALLY a legitimate finalist. It's CRAZY to claim that he was only on the finalist list as the token guy.
    LOL-there were lots of lists-one even supposedly had former Bush Deputy AG Jim Comey on it. But the final list apparently had QuotaMayor, Kagan (SG), and the two politicians (the michigan canadian harvard grad and Janet DHS Napolitano)
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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    No evidence in Obama's pick? Surely you must be joking. The entire list of finalists were all female. NONE OF THEM are close to being the best available choices. The Former governor of Arizona or the governor of Michigan? Good God.
    Where's the evidence that says the President picked Sotomayor because of race and gender?

    Just because you think she was not the best doesn't disqualify the idea. Hell there's always a better candidate for President in many people's eyes, but we get what we get, and people are not killing themselves over it.


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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Where's the evidence that says the President picked Sotomayor because of race and gender?
    Hmm....Lessee, she was picked by the babbling baboon who manages to drag race into every speech he gives (they really need to reprogram that teleprompter to come up with a different opening line besides "Hi, I'm the first black President of the United States, and I just wanted to say I'm black, but also...."). How could anyone possibly think that Dear Leader wouldn't put a pre-eminence on ethnicity?

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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Hmm....Lessee, she was picked by the babbling baboon who manages to drag race into every speech he gives (they really need to reprogram that teleprompter to come up with a different opening line besides "Hi, I'm the first black President of the United States, and I just wanted to say I'm black, but also....").
    There is also no evidence that Obama says "hi, I'm the first black President of the United States, and I just wanted to say I'm black, but also...."

    I asked you what evidence is there that shows he picked her based on race or gender, and in essence, you answered by saying "because he picked her."

    Can't come up with a compelling argument? I'm not saying I am, in fact I'm not even making an argument, I'm asking a question you have yet to answer.

    All you've done is back up a lack of evidence with more lack of evidence.
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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    All you've done is back up a lack of evidence with more lack of evidence.
    Dear Leader's own words:
    But as impressive and meaningful as Judge Sotomayor's sterling credentials in the law is her own extraordinary journey.
    What Sonia will bring to the court, then, is not only the knowledge and experience acquired over a course of a brilliant legal career, but the wisdom accumulated from an inspiring life's journey.
    Short version: she's a latina and race/gender matter more than knowing the law.

    Because her "life's journey" wouldn't make a damn bit of difference any other way.

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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    She's certainly not as competent as, say, Harriet Miers.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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