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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Women are not a minority. They are a majority of Americans, and a majority of law degree holders. Latinos are 15% of Americans, yet 0 of the 110 people to serve on the Supreme Court have been Latino.

    Let's look at all the previous Supreme Court nominees since 1980:

    Samuel Alito (white male)
    Harriet Miers (white female)
    John Roberts (white male)
    Stephen Breyer (white male)
    Ruth Bader Ginsburg (white female)
    Clarence Thomas (black male)
    David Souter (white male)
    Anthony Kennedy (white male)
    Douglas Ginsburg (white male)
    Robert Bork (white male)
    Antonin Scalia (white male)
    William Rehnquist (white male)
    Sandra Day O'Connor (white female)

    Percentage of white nominees: 92%
    Percentage of male nominees: 77%

    The Supreme Court is not exactly a picture of diversity. People need to stop whining about a president appointing someone who isn't a white male.
    lets break it down further

    Ginsburg and Breyer are Jewish. That means more than 20% of the supreme court is Jewish yet Jews make up only 2% of the population. With Souter leaving the bench, Stevens is the only Protestant. We Protestants are GROSSLY underrepresented on the court.
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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why are we talking about her sex and race, instead of whether she is qualified or likely to make a good Supreme Court Justice? I really get this impresion that our friends on the right want to talk about anything except her qualifications.
    There's nothing much there to talk about.

    She's been on the bench a goodly length of time. Of five majority opinions she wrote on the appellate bench that were reviewed by the Supreme Court, three were overturned--and not by 5-4 margins (one was unanimous, which rather suggests she screwed that on up). Her legal reasoning is workmanlike but neither incisive nor insightful. She is, politics, feminazi attitudes, and a distinct "la raza" bias notwithstanding, a competent jurist--but no more than that.

    There's not enough to warrant opposing her confirmation to the Supreme Court. The Constitution says the President gets to pick whom he wants, with input from the Senate; she should be confirmed because the Constitution says Dear Leader can pick her if he wants. But if this is the best legal mind the liberals have to offer, they're even more befuddled than they typicaly appear.

    In some respects, she's the perfect replacement for Souter--a shallow, uninspired judge, with shallow, uninspired thinking, with shallow and uninspired liberal idiocies perverting her legal reasoning. Souter was a forgettable justice; Sotamayor, once all the salsa has lost its spice, will be the same.

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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    There's nothing much there to talk about.

    She's been on the bench a goodly length of time. Of five majority opinions she wrote on the appellate bench that were reviewed by the Supreme Court, three were overturned--and not by 5-4 margins (one was unanimous, which rather suggests she screwed that on up). Her legal reasoning is workmanlike but neither incisive nor insightful. She is, politics, feminazi attitudes, and a distinct "la raza" bias notwithstanding, a competent jurist--but no more than that.

    There's not enough to warrant opposing her confirmation to the Supreme Court. The Constitution says the President gets to pick whom he wants, with input from the Senate; she should be confirmed because the Constitution says Dear Leader can pick her if he wants. But if this is the best legal mind the liberals have to offer, they're even more befuddled than they typicaly appear.

    In some respects, she's the perfect replacement for Souter--a shallow, uninspired judge, with shallow, uninspired thinking, with shallow and uninspired liberal idiocies perverting her legal reasoning. Souter was a forgettable justice; Sotamayor, once all the salsa has lost its spice, will be the same.
    You know, I may not like what you say alot, nor how you say it, but you get major credit for fairness and logic for this post.

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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    There's nothing much there to talk about.

    She's been on the bench a goodly length of time. Of five majority opinions she wrote on the appellate bench that were reviewed by the Supreme Court, three were overturned--and not by 5-4 margins (one was unanimous, which rather suggests she screwed that on up). Her legal reasoning is workmanlike but neither incisive nor insightful. She is, politics, feminazi attitudes, and a distinct "la raza" bias notwithstanding, a competent jurist--but no more than that.

    There's not enough to warrant opposing her confirmation to the Supreme Court. The Constitution says the President gets to pick whom he wants, with input from the Senate; she should be confirmed because the Constitution says Dear Leader can pick her if he wants. But if this is the best legal mind the liberals have to offer, they're even more befuddled than they typicaly appear.

    In some respects, she's the perfect replacement for Souter--a shallow, uninspired judge, with shallow, uninspired thinking, with shallow and uninspired liberal idiocies perverting her legal reasoning. Souter was a forgettable justice; Sotamayor, once all the salsa has lost its spice, will be the same.
    excellent analysis of QuotaMayor.


    She had a great college record and while hispanic women were major beneficiaries of affirmative action, its hard to argue she did not deserve entrance into Yale Law where (like everyone else who gets on the YLJ) she wrote her way on to the main law review (Yale doesn't have grades for first year therefore there are no "grade associates" on that Journal). However, after that, she hardly had say the stellar careers of people such as Akhil Amar, Pam Karlan (rated one of the top brief writers in the Nation) Peter Keisler, Steven Calabresi, John Roberts, or Paul Clements-all of whom were Yale Law Journal editors or on the Harvard Law Review

    She is hardly one of the leading lights on the appellate courts but she probably was the academically best qualified hispanic liberal female available.
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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The Supreme Court is not exactly a picture of diversity. People need to stop whining about a president appointing someone who isn't a white male.
    It's not supposed to be.

    It's supposed to be a panel of the most profound jurists the nation can produce to interpret the laws in terms of the Constitution as the people who wrote that Constitution intended for it to be applied.

    "Diversity" isn't a job requirement.

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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why are we talking about her sex and race, instead of whether she is qualified or likely to make a good Supreme Court Justice? I really get this impresion that our friends on the right want to talk about anything except her qualifications.
    She's being appointed by Obama. That means she's not qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice, rather instead, she's a sock puppet taken from a marathon loser with severe athlete's foot.

    Her sex and ethnicity (hispanic ain't a race) became an issue because she babbled about them.

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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Considering her statements, this isn't likely.
    She might make Ginsburg look like a Strict Constructionist.

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    Doesn't matter. She's replacing Souter, so it's not like she's going to change the make up of the court. Besides, looking at her, it doesn't look like she's familiar with eye liner or any of that other goop women hide their faces with.

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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why can't the people who make accusations of affirmative action ever come up with anything other then 'it's obvious'? I mean if it's so obvious. Bring on the massive amounts of proof. Bring up the documents that specifically say that these people made it to where they are because of their race, gender etc. If you can't then STFU.
    Of course it's obvious. What were the predictions about Obama's pick? Female, probably hispanic, maybe black.

    Who'd he pick?

    A latina.

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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by NDNdancer View Post
    I'm disappointed by this nomination. If there was ever a time to get another liberal judge on the bench, this would be it. Instead, Obama chose a very moderate, almost conservative nominee. I'd hazard a guess that he and his team are "testing the waters" with this nominee. She's already drawn some pretty negative criticism from the right, but on the whole, should have an easy confirmation. She's supremely qualified, impeccable credentials, with tons of experience. My preference would be a more liberal judicial temperament to balance out the pretty unbalanced court.

    Who knows though, she might be like Souter and surprise us all.

    This was a supremely well thought out political ploy. There is very little the R's can object to given the fact that 7 of them approved her the last go round, including then Republican Arlen Specter. If Franken is seated, then it's almost a slam dunk.

    What's already happening is a further implosion of the right, to the point that it's becoming a bit ridiculous. This internal melee is fun to watch, but is only going to lead to the R's being further marginalized as they lose potential Hispanic votes in their catering to the extreme right of their party. That might be the point after all to Obama's nomination.

    Obama picked her.

    That means she's as liberal as they get. That means she won't use the Constitution more than five days a month.

    What more can you people want?

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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    It's not supposed to be.

    It's supposed to be a panel of the most profound jurists the nation can produce to interpret the laws in terms of the Constitution as the people who wrote that Constitution intended for it to be applied.

    "Diversity" isn't a job requirement.
    The best and the very brightest legal minds ought to be on the supreme court. That probably means more Jews than blacks for example based on who is graduating at the very top of Yale and Harvard Law


    The best engineering schools aren't all that diverse either. Some of them have more Chinese than the US Table Tennis team!!
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