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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I agree with this assesment. I see it as him appeasing two minorities with his choice.
    Women are not a minority. They are a majority of Americans, and a majority of law degree holders. Latinos are 15% of Americans, yet 0 of the 110 people to serve on the Supreme Court have been Latino.

    Let's look at all the previous Supreme Court nominees since 1980:

    Samuel Alito (white male)
    Harriet Miers (white female)
    John Roberts (white male)
    Stephen Breyer (white male)
    Ruth Bader Ginsburg (white female)
    Clarence Thomas (black male)
    David Souter (white male)
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    Douglas Ginsburg (white male)
    Robert Bork (white male)
    Antonin Scalia (white male)
    William Rehnquist (white male)
    Sandra Day O'Connor (white female)

    Percentage of white nominees: 92%
    Percentage of male nominees: 77%

    The Supreme Court is not exactly a picture of diversity. People need to stop whining about a president appointing someone who isn't a white male.
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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Why are we talking about her sex and race, instead of whether she is qualified or likely to make a good Supreme Court Justice? I really get this impresion that our friends on the right want to talk about anything except her qualifications.

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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Women are not a minority.
    I knew someone would misunderstand due to my lack of explination. When I said minority I meant in the system, not US population.

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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I knew someone would misunderstand due to my lack of explination. When I said minority I meant in the system, not US population.
    Women hold a majority of law degrees as well.
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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why are we talking about her sex and race, instead of whether she is qualified or likely to make a good Supreme Court Justice? I really get this impresion that our friends on the right want to talk about anything except her qualifications.
    So very true, they're playing the race card already and Karl Rove has reservations about her intellectual competance even though she graduated second in her class at Princeton. But none of this matters. This is what I was talking about in another thread where I pointed the insanity of the behavior of anti Obama folks. Whether or not Sotomayer is confrimed, which she will be, Obama is going to appoint Liberal judges...and hopefully lot's of em. Many young Liberal judges who will be alive till after I die. Too bad Republiconservatrians.
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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Of course she's a "political" choice, but she's also pretty damn smart and will probably do fine on the court. I'm ambivalent, because I think Wood would have been a better Justice, but having a strong liberal bloc isn't really in my best interests.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Women are not a minority. They are a majority of Americans, and a majority of law degree holders. Latinos are 15% of Americans, yet 0 of the 110 people to serve on the Supreme Court have been Latino.

    Let's look at all the previous Supreme Court nominees since 1980:

    Samuel Alito (white male)
    Harriet Miers (white female)
    John Roberts (white male)
    Stephen Breyer (white male)
    Ruth Bader Ginsburg (white female)
    Clarence Thomas (black male)
    David Souter (white male)
    Anthony Kennedy (white male)
    Douglas Ginsburg (white male)
    Robert Bork (white male)
    Antonin Scalia (white male)
    William Rehnquist (white male)
    Sandra Day O'Connor (white female)

    Percentage of white nominees: 92%
    Percentage of male nominees: 77%

    The Supreme Court is not exactly a picture of diversity. People need to stop whining about a president appointing someone who isn't a white male.
    If you looked at the brightest law students of 40 years ago, I'd wager that around 92% of them were white and 77% were male.

    It's obviously going to change over time, but it's not altogether astonishing that there's currently an imbalance among the best 60+ year old judges.
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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    It would be nice if she ruled based on the Constitution, unlike the clod she might be replacing.
    Considering her statements, this isn't likely.
    She might make Ginsburg look like a Strict Constructionist.

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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Why can't the people who make accusations of affirmative action ever come up with anything other then 'it's obvious'? I mean if it's so obvious. Bring on the massive amounts of proof. Bring up the documents that specifically say that these people made it to where they are because of their race, gender etc. If you can't then STFU.
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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    I'm disappointed by this nomination. If there was ever a time to get another liberal judge on the bench, this would be it. Instead, Obama chose a very moderate, almost conservative nominee. I'd hazard a guess that he and his team are "testing the waters" with this nominee. She's already drawn some pretty negative criticism from the right, but on the whole, should have an easy confirmation. She's supremely qualified, impeccable credentials, with tons of experience. My preference would be a more liberal judicial temperament to balance out the pretty unbalanced court.

    Who knows though, she might be like Souter and surprise us all.

    This was a supremely well thought out political ploy. There is very little the R's can object to given the fact that 7 of them approved her the last go round, including then Republican Arlen Specter. If Franken is seated, then it's almost a slam dunk.

    What's already happening is a further implosion of the right, to the point that it's becoming a bit ridiculous. This internal melee is fun to watch, but is only going to lead to the R's being further marginalized as they lose potential Hispanic votes in their catering to the extreme right of their party. That might be the point after all to Obama's nomination.

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    Re: Is Sotomayor a Political choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Well, ALL Supreme Court picks are political choices to some extent. If a candidate doesn't roughly match the president's political ideology, the president isn't going to pick him/her no matter how qualified he/she is.

    With that said, I personally would have preferred Elena Kagan, Diane Wood, or Pamela Karlan. I'm sure Sotomayor will be fine, but I think that intellectualism is an important trait for a Supreme Court pick, because they can sway the opinions of other justices over time and actually have more influence than just their one vote. And I'm not sure that Sotomayor has that particular trait.
    I knew Pam Karlan fairly well in college. She has a crush on my roommate (A Rhodes Scholar and on the debate team with her) so she spent alot of time in our suite. Brilliant woman-way too left for me. Akhil Reed Amar is the smartest liberal legal scholar in the country but he's probably too intellectual honest for someone like Obama to pick.

    QuotaMayor was the top academically of available leftwing Hispanic lady judges though
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