View Poll Results: Should women be allowed to specialize as infantry

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  • Yes, and they should be integrated with the males

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  • Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units

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  • No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training

    33 18.86%
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Nobody is saying you have to do anything, except refrain from raping and torturing civilians.
    You can do that, can't you?
    Since I never have,,,chances are, I won't feel deprived if I don't start. You might want to tell the Islamic Terrorists the same thing. See how far you get with that Trash.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Do we have tooooo?
    Just think of the female soldiers as Wendy to your Lost Boys.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Does a whole squad bust in the door, or only one person? If only one person, why does it have to be the woman? Having a male do the speaking in those situations is not wrong.
    Who said anything about women even being in an infantry platoon with men? You really think that would work?

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Who said anything about women even being in an infantry platoon with men? You really think that would work?
    I think it would, yes.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think it would, yes.
    The distractions would be too numerous.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The distractions would be too numerous.
    How so?

    ~10 characters~

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How so?

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    For instance, if Tashah had been in my platoon in Iraq every last one of us would have tried to **** her on a regular basis.

    Moreover, the sexual harrassment policy in the military is very ambigious. When I was a team leader I would often refer to one of my Marines as a "bitch" or a "pussy"...not sure how well that would go over with a lady. The waters have been muddied already.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    For instance, if Tashah had been in my platoon in Iraq every last one of us would have tried to **** her on a regular basis.

    Moreover, the sexual harrassment policy in the military is very ambigious. When I was a team leader I would often refer to one of my Marines as a "bitch" or a "pussy"...not sure how well that would go over with a lady. The waters have been muddied already.
    I don't perceive this (men's inability to control themselves/ behave appropriately) as a good reason to penalize females by forbidding them certain jobs. If what Tashah says is even half true, the US army would've benefited immeasurably from her service.
    Why should females be forbidden jobs they're qualified for and good at, why should these jobs go to men instead (who might not even be as qualified), simply because men lack the ability to behave appropriately?
    It sounds like a problem the men need to work on, if you ask me.
    Forbidding women jobs because of it is not only unfair to women, but it really doesn't solve the problem of men not being able to control themselves. If they can't control themselves in that context, how can they be expected to behave properly in any context? Should women be forced to wear burqas and forbidden to leave their homes unescorted, because of men's lack of self-control?

    Can you imagine if society tried to deny men the opportunity to work in certain fields- especially fields that were considered heroic and honorable- because women worked there, and the women might not be able to act properly with men around?
    Please.
    Last edited by 1069; 08-09-09 at 05:41 PM.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    For instance, if Tashah had been in my platoon in Iraq every last one of us would have tried to **** her on a regular basis.

    Moreover, the sexual harrassment policy in the military is very ambigious. When I was a team leader I would often refer to one of my Marines as a "bitch" or a "pussy"...not sure how well that would go over with a lady. The waters have been muddied already.
    And none of you would have been able to respect her firm "no"?

    Based on my experience, things like that are a two way street. Men have to pay a little attention to what they say, and women have to be a little tolerant. Troublemakers are a problem without women, and will be with women.

    By the way, I remember a time when a guy in squadron without thinking used a term of measurement based on female pubic hair in front of two women. He was embarrassed and scared, but they just laughed.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I don't perceive this (men's inability to control themselves/ behave appropriately) as a good reason to penalize females by forbidding them certain jobs. If even what Tashah says is even half true, the US army would've benefited immeasurably from her service.
    Why should females be forbidden jobs they're qualified for and good at, why should these jobs go to men instead (who might not even be as qualified), simply because men lack the ability to behave appropriately?
    It sounds like a problem the men need to work on, if you ask me.
    Forbidding women jobs because of it is not only unfair to women, but it really doesn't solve the problem of men not being able to control themselves. If they can't control themselves in that context, how can they be expected to behave properly in any context? Should women be forced to wear burqas and forbidden to leave their homes unescorted, because of men's lack of self-control?

    Can you imagine if society tried to deny men the opportunity to work in certain fields- especially fields that were considered heroic and honorable- because women worked there, and the women might not be able to act properly with men around?
    Please.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And none of you would have been able to respect her firm "no"?

    Based on my experience, things like that are a two way street. Men have to pay a little attention to what they say, and women have to be a little tolerant. Troublemakers are a problem without women, and will be with women.

    By the way, I remember a time when a guy in squadron without thinking used a term of measurement based on female pubic hair in front of two women. He was embarrassed and scared, but they just laughed.
    Sometimes men don't behave nicely in war zones.

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