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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    It is within the realm of possibility that their presence in theater (not necessarily on the front lines) has a civilizing effect on male soldiers, leading to less rape and other atrocities committed against the civilian population, as well as less depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation among soldiers.
    Women, on the Islamic Terrorist Front haven't had much of a "Calming Effect" as suicidal bombs...Or, thought very highly of by the terrorists either. I'd say your spot on the way our Enemies operate though.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    It is within the realm of possibility that their presence in theater (not necessarily on the front lines) has a civilizing effect on male soldiers, leading to less rape and other atrocities committed against the civilian population, as well as less depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation among soldiers.
    Not sure how it affects their comrades but it would only serve to inflame the locals and our enemies.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    It's the "front line" concept that's funny. Are any of you even aware of the wars we fight anymore and the wars that are coming? There's no "front line" to keep the women from.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Oh, so you haven't met any Iraqi men? Thanks for clearing that up.

    You see, Arabic/Muslim men would NEVER tolerate a group of women patrolling through their neighborhoods, busting down their doors, barking orders at them and their family - even conversing with them is out of the question. That's just reality, buddy. Once word got out that a female infantry unit was patrolling through Iraq or Afghanistan it wouldn't be long before that unit was wiped out in a massive, coordinted attack. I wonder what they'd do to the ones they captured...
    You're trying to present this as if Iraqis are very tolerant towards American male soldiers patrolling their areas and searching their houses, and the only problem they have is with female soldiers doing this.

    And of course I'm aware of the female status in the Muslim society, I'm from the ME buddy.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    Women, on the Islamic Terrorist Front haven't had much of a "Calming Effect" as suicidal bombs...Or, thought very highly of by the terrorists either. I'd say your spot on on the way our Enemies operate though.
    American Women soldiers didn't have much of a civilizing influence in Abu Ghraib, either, unfortunately.
    I think the trick is that the women have to have power equal to that of the men, and in order for that to happen, there must be sufficient numbers of women, and they must be of a certain caliber.
    When there's one woman in a group for every twenty or thirty men, and when the women are of the caliber of Megan Ambuhl and Lindee England (young, uneducated, and of the lowest conceivable military rank), and when their immediate supervisors are male, you get a situation where these females cannot possibly exert a positive influence. They are too powerless. At best, they are subservient to the men, catering to them in hopes of being safe and fitting in.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    You're trying to present this as if Iraqis are very tolerant towards American male soldiers patrolling their areas and searching their houses, and the only problem they have is with female soldiers doing this.
    No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying there is zero tolerance for females, as opposed to just some tolerance for males. That's a big difference, trust me.

    Obviously, they don't like it when anyone busts into their homes but the manner in which male Marines are able to interact with the head of the household permits them the latitude to win over hearts and minds, not so with women. An old Iraqi sheik would die before he obeyed a woman's order.

    And of course I'm aware of the female status in the Muslim society, I'm from the ME buddy.
    I know buddy, I know. I'm just trying to tell you how it was for us in Iraq. Iraqi men (for the most part) do not see women as equals. It's just a fact of life.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    American Women soldiers didn't have much of a civilizing influence in Abu Ghraib, either, unfortunately.
    I think the trick is that the women have to have power equal to that of the men, and in order for that to happen, there must be sufficient numbers of women, and they must be of a certain caliber.
    When there's one woman in a group for every twenty or thirty men, and when the women are of the caliber of Megan Ambuhl and Lindee England (young, uneducated, and of the lowest conceivable military rank), and when their immediate supervisors are male, you get a situation where these females cannot possibly exert a positive influence. They are too powerless. At best, they are subservient to the men, catering to them in hopes of being safe and fitting in.
    Personally, I don't feel all that "Civil" toward Suicidal Idiots trying to kill me over a "god". Also,,,we're NOT in the business of trying to change a 1000 year old Islamic primitive mental state. Only stop them from killing us...

    They'll have to get their own House in Order.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    Personally, I don't feel all that "Civil" toward Suicidal Idiots trying to kill me over a "god". Also,,,we're NOT in the business of trying to change a 1000 year old Islamic primitive mental state. Only stop them from killing us...

    They'll have to get their own House in Order.
    Nobody is saying you have to do anything, except refrain from raping and torturing civilians.
    You can do that, can't you?

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Nobody is saying you have to do anything, except refrain from raping and torturing civilians.
    You can do that, can't you?
    Do we have tooooo?

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying there is zero tolerance for females, as opposed to just some tolerance for males. That's a big difference, trust me.

    Obviously, they don't like it when anyone busts into their homes but the manner in which male Marines are able to interact with the head of the household permits them the latitude to win over hearts and minds, not so with women. An old Iraqi sheik would die before he obeyed a woman's order.
    Does a whole squad bust in the door, or only one person? If only one person, why does it have to be the woman? Having a male do the speaking in those situations is not wrong.

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