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  • Yes, and they should be integrated with the males

    101 57.71%
  • Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units

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  • No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training

    33 18.86%
  • No, women should never serve in a role where they may encounter combat

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Thread: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I have no idea what you're talking about, and I devoutly hope my son's life will never be at any risk at all, although I'm not an idiot and I know that's not likely.
    But there's no glory in it, as far as I'm concerned.
    I haven't really gotten to the "I'm proud of my teenage son for risking his life for his country" point yet, although maybe I will eventually.
    I'll no doubt force myself to believe whatever I have to believe in order to endure this.
    I'm aware that people of every MOS are killed, even those in non-combat positions. If they ever leave base, they're at risk. Roadside bombs don't discriminate.
    Just tell him to pick administration. Even IF they go to Iraq or Afghanistan they NEVER leave the wire.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    The purpose of the infantry-- of the military in general-- is to keep their soldiers away from our women. We can dress it up however we like, as sovereignty, border control, or protecting our national interests, but what it boils down to is protection of our women and children.

    Putting women, especially women of military age, into the front lines of combat directly contradicts the purpose of the military.

    By all means, they should be allowed to have military careers should they wish them. Certainly, they should be given infantry training in case our military fails and the teeming hordes follow them home. But putting them in the meat grinder and allowing them to be killed alongside the men is foolish, and toxic, and suicidal.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Some sacrifice more than others, it's just a fact. No need to get all butt-hurt over it.
    Excuse me if I don't take every word you say as a FACT but just your opinion.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Some sacrifice more than others, it's just a fact. No need to get all butt-hurt over it.
    Hehehehe, he said "butt-hurt" Mhehehehe.

    Sorry had an 80's Beavis and Butthead moment.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    The purpose of the infantry-- of the military in general-- is to keep their soldiers away from our women. We can dress it up however we like, as sovereignty, border control, or protecting our national interests, but what it boils down to is protection of our women and children.

    Putting women, especially women of military age, into the front lines of combat directly contradicts the purpose of the military.

    By all means, they should be allowed to have military careers should they wish them. Certainly, they should be given infantry training in case our military fails and the teeming hordes follow them home. But putting them in the meat grinder and allowing them to be killed alongside the men is foolish, and toxic, and suicidal.
    The purpose of the infantry and the military in general is to keep solders away from our women. That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. I can't stop laughing.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I have no idea what you're talking about, and I devoutly hope my son's life will never be at any risk at all, although I'm not an idiot and I know that's not likely.
    But there's no glory in it, as far as I'm concerned.
    Just remember that if he is going into the military, and especially if he is choosing combat arms, that it's probably not what he wants at all-- and he's probably not seeking "glory" any more than you are. Many of my friends and family are military, and even with their lives here and the comforts of home, the only thing I ever hear from anyone of them on the subject of the front lines is that they want to get back there, and they want to get back as soon as possible. They never talk about combat, or glory, or all of the stupid reasons that I'd want to go over there-- and end up getting good men and women killed-- but about their brothers and their duty and getting the job done.

    If he's choosing to enter the military in the midst of two foreign wars, you can probably guarantee that what he wants is to be up to his rucksack in it.

    Don't worry so much, and don't watch the news. Pay attention to the numbers, and you see that he has a better chance of coming home in one piece-- and fighting tooth and nail to go back-- than he would have in any previous war in American history.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by smartaleck View Post
    The purpose of the infantry and the military in general is to keep solders away from our women. That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. I can't stop laughing.
    Heh. Their soldiers. I will leave the implications of trying to keep our soldiers away from our women for another thread.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Weak? No. Less over all muscular strength? In many cases. That does not however equal weakness. I know plenty of scrawny assed men who served in the military, and I've known some women who could kick their ass.

    You are allowing your chauvinistic mindset to dictate your words. Serving in an infantry unit is not primarily about physical strength. There is no need for super men. I served in an infantry unit and I was not overly muscular. Some men can carry more than others. Some women can carry more than some men.

    Sex is irrelevant. Capability is what is important.

    You would do well to refrain from such ignorant commentary.
    I'm glad you put this in better words than I ever could. I just quit trying to communicatie with someone who has a colosed mind and preconceived ideas where women in genreal are concerned not just women in the infantry.

    Really, after some of the things I have read here I'm amazed to know that these men have wive's, mothers, sisters, daughters and girlfriends. To know so little about the abilities of the women in your lives is sad if nothing else.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by smartaleck View Post
    I'm glad you put this in better words than I ever could. I just quit trying to communicatie with someone who has a colosed mind and preconceived ideas where women in genreal are concerned not just women in the infantry.
    Don't forget you also did not respond to people who asked legitimate questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by smartaleck View Post
    Really, after some of the things I have read here I'm amazed to know that these men have wive's, mothers, sisters, daughters and girlfriends. To know so little about the abilities of the women in your lives is sad if nothing else.
    Because thinking of women as the weaker of the two sexes has never been taught to young men as they grow up.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Because thinking of women as the weaker of the two sexes has never been taught to young men as they grow up.
    I'm female, of course, but I didn't grow up thinking women were the weaker of the two sexes.
    I don't know if this was a deliberate omission in my upbringing or not.

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