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  • Yes, and they should be integrated with the males

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  • Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units

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  • No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training

    33 18.86%
  • No, women should never serve in a role where they may encounter combat

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by smartaleck View Post
    I agree with you about women in combat not being able to keep up. What I didn't agree with is your statement that women are weak mentally and physically. Just because you can't hack it physicaly doesn't mean you are weak mentally.

    So you try and be honest and own up to what you posted.

    I've not a doubt that Women have a few Mental skills far above most Men.ops: However,,, we're talking about Combat. A Woman has NO place on the Front Line... True?

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    No,,,I've a realistic attitiude about women... In a Combat Zone. Be Honest A/L,,, They're Weak, compared to Men.:roll True?
    Weak? No. Less over all muscular strength? In many cases. That does not however equal weakness. I know plenty of scrawny assed men who served in the military, and I've known some women who could kick their ass.

    You are allowing your chauvinistic mindset to dictate your words. Serving in an infantry unit is not primarily about physical strength. There is no need for super men. I served in an infantry unit and I was not overly muscular. Some men can carry more than others. Some women can carry more than some men.

    Sex is irrelevant. Capability is what is important.

    You would do well to refrain from such ignorant commentary.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post

    I've not a doubt that Women have a few Mental skills far above most Men.ops: However,,, we're talking about Combat. A Woman has NO place on the Front Line... True?
    Not true.




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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    "Preconcieved",,,How about based on Reality? Females aren't worth a damm in physical Combat. Try to be honest.
    How would you even know this? When was the last time you actually served with females in "physical combat?" (as if there is non-physical combat)

    You ever fought a female who was thoroughly trained in kick boxing and BJJ? And what part of the female anatomy is it that makes them poor shots?

    You need to do some introspection.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is misleading. Infantry does learn any number of skills usefull in the real world.
    My primary MOS was infantry. I got very little out of that MOS that was practical in the civilian world. I was pretty good at marching with a ruck, shooting a number of weapons, communicating on the radio, rappelling, mopping and buffing floors, cleaning latrines, taking orders, MOUT and CQB, marching with a ruck, mopping and buffing floors, marching with a ruck, taking orders.

    Wait.

    Anyway, there is really very little from the infantry MOS that translates into the civilian world. When I went to MP school it was a little better.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    My primary MOS was infantry. I got very little out of that MOS that was practical in the civilian world. I was pretty good at marching with a ruck, shooting a number of weapons, communicating on the radio, rappelling, mopping and buffing floors, cleaning latrines, taking orders, MOUT and CQB, marching with a ruck, mopping and buffing floors, marching with a ruck, taking orders.

    Wait.

    Anyway, there is really very little from the infantry MOS that translates into the civilian world. When I went to MP school it was a little better.
    Geez, I got the list when I got out. Experienced in teamwork under stressful situations is just one example of a skill that translates directly as a job skill. There are technical skills, and there are general skills. Infantry is a great place for those general skills, even moreso than most of the military. While I do not work in the field I worked in when in the navy, I still learned alot that simply from being in the service that relates to my job.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post

    I've not a doubt that Women have a few Mental skills far above most Men.ops: However,,, we're talking about Combat. A Woman has NO place on the Front Line... True?
    This is just so wrong.

    Many women serve as combat pilots etc. on the front lines, and they are good at it. No physical weakness and damn certain no mental weakness.

    Just because they have strength in different area's it does not make them weak in combat.

    I do not think a female should be in combat arms as in infantry, artillery or armor, but it is because they have a different skill set, not a weakness.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Geez, I got the list when I got out. Experienced in teamwork under stressful situations is just one example of a skill that translates directly as a job skill. There are technical skills, and there are general skills. Infantry is a great place for those general skills, even moreso than most of the military. While I do not work in the field I worked in when in the navy, I still learned alot that simply from being in the service that relates to my job.
    Well come on now, that's the same crap the recruiter tells you though. "These are the skills employers are looking for!" Hogwash. Those don't really translate into a "skill." Those are more like qualities you have developed, good under pressure. A skill would be some proficiency in diesel engine repair, linguistics, aircraft maintenance, or something in the medical field.

    Punctuality, discipline, good under stress, quick thinking...those aren't actual skills that will land you a career. They will make you better at whatever you choose to do but you can't market that stuff.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by smartaleck View Post
    Every person in the military is doing a service to their country and the rest of us. Since when do we rate who is a better by the job they do. The guys on the front lines couldn't even do their jobs witout back up from everyone else, from what they eat to what they wear to thier ammunition someone has to supply them. Who comes in a rescues them when they are wounded and risks thier lives doing so? Our military are a team all working together and no one better or more important then someone else. Without all working together thier would be no infantry.
    Some sacrifice more than others, it's just a fact. No need to get all butt-hurt over it.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Weak? No. Less over all muscular strength? In many cases. That does not however equal weakness. I know plenty of scrawny assed men who served in the military, and I've known some women who could kick their ass.

    You are allowing your chauvinistic mindset to dictate your words. Serving in an infantry unit is not primarily about physical strength. There is no need for super men. I served in an infantry unit and I was not overly muscular. Some men can carry more than others. Some women can carry more than some men.

    Sex is irrelevant. Capability is what is important.

    You would do well to refrain from such ignorant commentary.
    Thanks so much you stated the truth. I gave up responding to someone who is so closed minded with so many preconcieved ideas about women's abilities.

    Really sometimes I wonder if some people here even have mothers, daughters, wives and girlfriends in their lives because they haven't a clue about where women are coming from.

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