View Poll Results: Should women be allowed to specialize as infantry

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  • Yes, and they should be integrated with the males

    101 57.71%
  • Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units

    16 9.14%
  • No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training

    33 18.86%
  • No, women should never serve in a role where they may encounter combat

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Thread: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    I see no reason why women can't serve, and be treated as equals, in the infantry. It might be a huge culture shock for some of the men to be confronted with their lack of "delicate little flower-ness", but we all have to grow up sometime.

    Having said that, though, the physical standards for qualification should be the same.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Well you might find it more of a specific problem if the guys in your unit were fighting over some chick and this carried over and start messing with the job you were there to do. Or if some guy was supposed to have your back but he's to worried about his sex partner to stay on task.
    Women already serve as cops and firefighters and somehow manage to fight their way through the irresistible sexual tension of working with men.


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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Spare women from any possible harm, sex, and purpose?

    No thanks. I'd rather not live under than Taliban

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Even if you put aside all sexual distractions you are still left with the fact that generally the female body - in it's optimum state - is not as optimal as the male body for the battlefield.

    Center for Military Readiness | Women in Combat
    Since modern combat is more “high-tech,” why can’t women handle it?

    A: In close combat environments, which fit the definition above, physical capabilities are as important as ever. Equipment and survival gear carried by today’s combat soldiers, including electronic weapons and ammunition, satellite communication devices, batteries, and water weigh 50-100 pounds—a burden that is just as heavy as loads carried by Roman legionnaires in the days of Julius Caesar.

    Modern body armor alone weighs 25 pounds. This weight is proportionately more difficult to carry by female soldiers who are, on average, shorter and smaller than men, with 45-50% less upper body strength and 25-30% less aerobic capacity, which is essential for endurance. Even in current non-combat training, women suffer debilitating bone stress fractures and other injuries at rates double those of men.

    To summarize an enormous body of well-documented evidence produced by physiologists in the U.S. and Britain, in close combat women do not have an “equal opportunity” to survive, or to help fellow soldiers survive.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    The battlefield is not the place for political correctness and pretending there is no difference between men and women.

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    Although Kevlar helmets and body armor help recruits of both sexes survive injuries that were previously fatal, women are three to four times more likely than men to be injured in battle because of differences in bone structure, aerobic capacity and upper-body strength, says Elaine Donnelley, president of the Center for Military Readiness in Livonia, Mich.
    Women's eNews - With More Women at War, Military Rethinks Vet Care

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Even if you put aside all sexual distractions you are still left with the fact that generally the female body - in it's optimum state - is not as optimal as the male body for the battlefield.

    Center for Military Readiness | Women in Combat
    That is a private organization. They also have problems with gays in the military...

    http://cmrlink.org/problemgays.asp

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Even if you put aside all sexual distractions you are still left with the fact that generally the female body - in it's optimum state - is not as optimal as the male body for the battlefield.

    Center for Military Readiness | Women in Combat
    That is a private organization. They also have problems with gays in the military...

    Center for Military Readiness | Problems with Gays in the Military

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    The battlefield is not the place for political correctness and pretending there is no difference between men and women.
    Who's pretending? Women already serve in high-stress, high-danger jobs, and do so with commendable success. Not every woman is going to WANT to serve in a combat role, but why shouldn't women be allowed to TRY OUT to do so?

    PC has nothing to do with this. I don't understand why some women are so averse to allowing other women to live life on their own terms.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    That is a private organization. They also have problems with gays in the military...

    Center for Military Readiness | Problems with Gays in the Military
    For some reason, there are some that are averse to discovering that women can be just as tough as men. I don't really get it, personally.

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