View Poll Results: Should women be allowed to specialize as infantry

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  • Yes, and they should be integrated with the males

    101 57.71%
  • Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units

    16 9.14%
  • No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training

    33 18.86%
  • No, women should never serve in a role where they may encounter combat

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Although technically IAF, my entire military service upon graduation was spent embedded with IDF combat forces. I accompanied them into active battle three times. Gaza x 2, and most recently Lebanon. Advancing the notion that being embedded entitles one to some sort of silver-spoon treatment is the height of ignorance. I can assure you, every trial and tribulation in IDF combat units is equally distributed.
    Did you carry a weapon? Engage the enemy? Carry the same battle kit as everyone else? How many confirmed kills did you score? What was your MOS and why were you detailed to that unit?
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Jesus Christ! You've had people who served as infantry telling you the same thing as Gunny the whole time! Why is his opinion all of sudden so super great to you?
    You can't beat fairness, expererince , intelligence, judgement and most of all objectivity.

    To me Gunny did not have a preconcieved idea of what a women could or couldn't do and was willing to give them a chance even after a 100% failure on the women's part.

    It wasn't that I didn't beleive the people in the infantry in fact they actually made me realize it was impossible for just about every woman to do the job but being in the infantry isn't the same as actually training women to be in the infantry and being objective and fair in making your judgement of what a woman could and couldn't do . I believe Gunny is and was willing to give women a chance and most of the people here were not.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Not the same thing at all. You are attempting to compare mental strength to physical strength while mixing some racial garbage within. What I wrote, if you cared to put the "Spice Girl" baton down, was that only a very few would be able to handle the rigors of infantry life. I even offerred up an idea to allow women to be in the infantry.

    What you are purposefully failing to acknowledge is that I speak from experience. Ever gone on the "Slide for Life" or any other obstacle on the Confidence Course? Or ran through the Marine Obstacle Course? They can be serious gut checks for some. The vast majority of women simply cannot do it. And if they cannot do it, then how in hell would they be able to be in the infantry?

    Only the very few would be able to do it.
    Experience beats out opinion every time.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by smartaleck View Post
    You can't beat fairness, expererince , intelligence, judgement and most of all objectivity.

    To me Gunny did not have a preconcieved idea of what a women could or couldn't do and was willing to give them a chance even after a 100% failure on the women's part.

    It wasn't that I didn't beleive the people in the infantry in fact they actually made me realize it was impossible for just about every woman to do the job but being in the infantry isn't the same as actually training women to be in the infantry and being objective and fair in making your judgement of what a woman could and couldn't do . I believe Gunny is and was willing to give women a chance and most of the people here were not.
    Funny if you go back and read my posts I said exactly the same thing.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Funny if you go back and read my posts I said exactly the same thing.
    Good for you!

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Did you carry a weapon? Engage the enemy? Carry the same battle kit as everyone else? How many confirmed kills did you score? What was your MOS and why were you detailed to that unit?
    My MOS is listed in The Veterans social group. M4 and Glock-21. Twice decorated. Depending on circumstance and/or necessity, my weapons platform can be either offensive or defensive in nature. I would rather not divulge the carnage I inflicted upon the enemy. Let's just say it was rather extensive. One confirmed kill in Lebanon with my sidearm.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Well lookit you Mr. G.I. Joe. If you ain't the biggest baddest dude on the DP block! Even got yerself a username and crappy avatar to puff your bad stuff. My oh my. But it's been my experience that those who need to publicly flex usually know the least.
    And what has become of the biggest baddest dude on the DP block? Mr. G.I. Joe? Well now, it seems that he somehow managed to get his brilliant self suspended. And then lo and behold, he created himself a sock-puppet to circumvent the brig. My oh my. Now he's Gone Indefinitely Joe.

    Ironically enough, his socky name was G. I. Slow. Swear to God

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    My MOS is listed in The Veterans social group. M4 and Glock-21. Twice decorated. Depending on circumstance and/or necessity, my weapons platform can be either offensive or defensive in nature. I would rather not divulge the carnage I inflicted upon the enemy. Let's just say it was rather extensive. One confirmed kill in Lebanon with my sidearm.
    Interesting. To kill with a side-arm one generally needs to be up close. Thus this was likely a house raid, unless of course you were in a position that was overrun by the enemy.

    Is that correct? I understand if you wont/ cant say.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by smartaleck View Post
    Good for you!
    It just shows what a hypocrite you are, among other things. And that is putting it nicely.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by creation View Post
    Interesting. To kill with a side-arm one generally needs to be up close. Thus this was likely a house raid, unless of course you were in a position that was overrun by the enemy. Is that correct? I understand if you wont/ cant say.
    I have no problem with it. I killed a Hizb'Allah militiaman who had taken some shots at us and then fled on foot to a nearby deserted villa. I knew he was wounded due to a blood trail on the ground. Inside the villa, he was sitting on the floor about 3.5 meters in front of me. Blood was seeping from a leg wound. He started to swing his AK up at me. I fired my Glock twice from the doorway. The first round hit him in the neck, the second round tore into his upper torso.

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