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  • Yes, and they should be integrated with the males

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  • Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units

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  • No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training

    33 18.86%
  • No, women should never serve in a role where they may encounter combat

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Send me your MSN in a private message or something, I'm going to contact between you and the friend I was speaking about who is, indeed, a female and a combat-soldier in the Israeli defense forces.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    You do not explain why it wouldn't go well(according to your own opinion), so you don't really leave me room for debating the issue.
    If I remember correctly it was something about females being in fast raiding combat units or something to that effect.

    It is not open to debate as it really is only my opinion on that particular aspect. So you are correct.

    Unlike females overall in combat units where evidence exist to say no, in this particular case it is just my own anecdotal experience being attached to such a unit.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Originally Posted by Apocalypse
    You do not explain why it wouldn't go well(according to your own opinion), so you don't really leave me room for debating the issue.
    In 1948, during the Arab-Israeli War, the IDF discovered that male soldiers would drop out of the attack to help a female soldier, who was beyond help, quicker than they would do the same for a male soldier. This hendered the mission, it damaged morale and unit cohesion. It's the opinion of every real army in the world that co-ed combat units are a bad idea.

    Even the Soviets didn't allow co-ed units during WW2 and they had 5 year olds digging tank ditches in front of Moscow, so they obviosuly didn't care about who got killed and who didn't. They had male and female units. One of the baddest tank units in the Red Army was an all female battalion. Probably the highest scoring squadron in the Soviet air force was an all female night fighter squadron that the Germans dubbed, "The Night Witches".

    So, can we please stop using the, "egotistical white men", argument? Please??
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    A few interesting links.

    Women's Battalion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_Russian_and_Soviet_military]Women in the Russian and Soviet military - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/46th_Taman_Guards_Night_Bomber_Aviation_Regiment]Night Witches - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    In 1948, during the Arab-Israeli War, the IDF discovered that male soldiers would drop out of the attack to help a female soldier, who was beyond help, quicker than they would do the same for a male soldier. This hendered the mission, it damaged morale and unit cohesion. It's the opinion of every real army in the world that co-ed combat units are a bad idea.
    If this ban has ever existed, it certainly doesn't exist anymore.
    I find the idea of such a ban ridiculous, Israel has won that war against 7 different nations, so how exactly was using females in the field 'so dangerous'?
    In fact, the females role in the battles was just as big as the males' role, and one could say that without the female combat soldiers, Israel might have not survived past its first day.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    In 1948, during the Arab-Israeli War, the IDF discovered that male soldiers would drop out of the attack to help a female soldier, who was beyond help, quicker than they would do the same for a male soldier. This hendered the mission, it damaged morale and unit cohesion. It's the opinion of every real army in the world that co-ed combat units are a bad idea.

    Even the Soviets didn't allow co-ed units during WW2 and they had 5 year olds digging tank ditches in front of Moscow, so they obviosuly didn't care about who got killed and who didn't. They had male and female units. One of the baddest tank units in the Red Army was an all female battalion. Probably the highest scoring squadron in the Soviet air force was an all female night fighter squadron that the Germans dubbed, "The Night Witches".

    So, can we please stop using the, "egotistical white men", argument? Please??
    Thanks so much for the links here. i read all three and really enjoyed reading all the infomation. It is always great when you can actually learn someting You would never had though of unless you were posting to a question.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    If this ban has ever existed, it certainly doesn't exist anymore.
    I find the idea of such a ban ridiculous, Israel has won that war against 7 different nations, so how exactly was using females in the field 'so dangerous'?
    In fact, the females role in the battles was just as big as the males' role, and one could say that without the female combat soldiers, Israel might have not survived past its first day.
    The ban DID exist. Your IDF friend can attest to that, I'm sure. Also, it still exists within frontline infantry units.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Two points to make.

    1: Females cannot write their name in the snow with pee.

    2: Males cannot give birth to a child.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Two points to make.

    1: Females cannot write their name in the snow with pee.

    2: Males cannot give birth to a child.
    I like your comment and got a good laugh for the day from it. Thanks

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    racial
    Yes, racial. You mentioned "white" men having antiquated opinions. Now stop dodging the question and answer.

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