View Poll Results: Should women be allowed to specialize as infantry

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  • Yes, and they should be integrated with the males

    101 57.71%
  • Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units

    16 9.14%
  • No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training

    33 18.86%
  • No, women should never serve in a role where they may encounter combat

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's the reason that the IDF no longer allows women to serve in combat arms units.
    And there we reach the point between area B and sector S.
    My friend is a female and she serves currently in a fully-combat unit.
    Females are allowed to serve in the IDF as combatants, they are just not required to like the men who have a high military profile.
    They volunteer.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

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    Why are you making this racial?
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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by creation View Post
    Its true many females cannot carry the weight effectively. However, its also true that many of the women embedded with combat units carry their share of weight quite well. Moreover, as I said earlier, already in patrolling vehicles in the Royal Artillery they wear there share of kit and are in place to take on the enemy.
    One should also note that many men cannot carry the weight effectively either.
    And, the men that cannot hump all the gear aren't out there doing it, either.

    Co-ed infantry units are a bad idea, history has proven it. I don't care who has friends in whatever foriegn unit, whose government's policy is is no women in infantry units, it doesn't work. It's been proven time and again to be a detriment to unit cohesion and it has nothing to do with a woman's ability to do the same job. Folks need to get past the ability issue, because it's has very little to it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    And there we reach the point between area B and sector S.
    My friend is a female and she serves currently in a fully-combat unit.
    Females are allowed to serve in the IDF as combatants, they are just not required to like the men who have a high military profile.
    They volunteer.
    Exactly right. Any IDF female conscript who volunteers for combat duty is assigned to a combat training course right out of basic. They graduate as combat soldiers and are assigned to combat units.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, the men that cannot hump all the gear aren't out there doing it, either.

    Co-ed infantry units are a bad idea, history has proven it. I don't care who has friends in whatever foriegn unit, whose government's policy is is no women in infantry units, it doesn't work. It's been proven time and again to be a detriment to unit cohesion and it has nothing to do with a woman's ability to do the same job. Folks need to get past the ability issue, because it's has very little to it.
    You say it was proven over and over again, and yet, you give no proofs.
    Why is that?
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Exactly right. Any IDF female conscript who volunteers for combat duty is assigned to a combat training course right out of basic. They graduate as combat soldiers and are assigned to combat units.
    You're wrong.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    You say it was proven over and over again, and yet, you give no proofs.
    Why is that?
    I shouldn't have to prove that the IDF has a restriction on females in infantry units, with the exception of the Caracal Battalion, which serves in a reserve capacity. It should already be common knowledge.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I shouldn't have to prove that the IDF has a restriction on females in infantry units, with the exception of the Caracal Battalion, which serves in a reserve capacity. It should already be common knowledge.
    ...

    Those three dots are as much attention as you're going to get, make the most out of it.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
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    Those three dots are as much attention as you're going to get, make the most out of it.
    So, you unable to prove your point? Thank you for aquiessence. It's fun dispelling myths that people conjur up about military life. It's always been one of my favorite parts of debate forums.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you unable to prove your point? Thank you for aquiessence. It's fun dispelling myths that people conjur up about military life. It's always been one of my favorite parts of debate forums.
    Send me your MSN in a private message or something, I'm going to contact between you and the friend I was speaking about who is, indeed, a female and a combat-soldier in the Israeli defense forces.

    I am not going to give any further drop of attention to a person who is bizarre enough to tell the sun that it doesn't shine, while not even bothering to give any kind of an evidence to support that claim.
    Last edited by Apocalypse; 08-06-09 at 04:20 PM.
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