View Poll Results: Should women be allowed to specialize as infantry

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  • Yes, and they should be integrated with the males

    101 57.71%
  • Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units

    16 9.14%
  • No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training

    33 18.86%
  • No, women should never serve in a role where they may encounter combat

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Hunters I know that use tree stands, stand still, silent, with a loaded gun for hours on end.
    I find it odd that you compare between an hunter who simply hunts his animal prey and a soldier who needs to stand on guard for whole nights and days to ensure that he wouldn't be caught off-guard by the enemy and killed.

    Regardless, I fail to see why in the world anyone would think a woman incapable of standing still.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I find it odd that you compare between an hunter who simply hunts his animal prey and a soldier who needs to stand on guard for whole nights and days to ensure that he wouldn't be caught off-guard by the enemy and killed.
    I compare the act of standing still and silent.

    I confess, it started as a joke.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I compare the act of standing still and silent.
    I didn't know hunters stand still and stay silent for hours when they hunt.
    I thought they pretty much find their prey, follow it stealthy and strike.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I didn't know hunters stand still and stay silent for hours when they hunt.
    I thought they pretty much find their prey, follow it stealthy and strike.
    The ones that hunt on foot, sure. But not the ones that use tree stands.

    How Tree Stands Work

    Once you've found a good location, the key is remaining still and quiet. Even though you may be dressed head to toe in camouflage and your stand may be hidden with branches and leaves, deer still notice when you move.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    The ones that hunt on foot, sure. But not the ones that use tree stands.

    How Tree Stands Work
    I'm sorry but this tree stand thing sounds way easier than sitting on your toes with an heavy equipment, armor, and a machine gun for all night long, where every second counts and you must not lose focus on your sight.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I'm sorry but this tree stand thing sounds way easier than sitting on your toes with an heavy equipment, armor, and a machine gun for all night long, where every second counts and you must not lose focus on your sight.
    I never said anything about equipment. I stated that they sit still and quiet, and alert, with a loaded gun waiting to shoot. Which is exactly what you said you doubted women could do.

    I thought you were only joking anyway, so... ?

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I never said anything about equipment. I stated that they sit still and quiet, and alert, with a loaded gun waiting to shoot. Which is exactly what you said you doubted women could do.

    I thought you were only joking anyway, so... ?
    I was joking about the 'women can't do that' thing, not that soldiers don't have to do that.
    They do.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by smartaleck View Post
    Go to google and check out what the different standards for male and female Marines are. The only difference between requirements for male and female marines is: Males have to do : Dead hang pull ups and women Marines have to do Flex arm hand pull ups. .
    Hanging there and actually doing pull ups are two completely different things.

    I could be but this is hanging in the flex arm position(we would have to ask the resident marine to see if this is true). The minimum any female in the marines must do this is 15 seconds.




    I do believe the physical requirements for the Marines are more physically demading than the Army
    To get a minimum passing score on a pt test they are not. Crunches are just half way sit ups and you only need do minimum 50 half way sit ups in the marines if you are a male, males(17-21 age group) in the army have to do a minimum of 53 whole sit ups, males in the marines have to do a minimum of 3 pull ups while males in the army have to do 42 push-ups.The minimum 3 mile run time males in the marines must do is 28 minutes,that is basically 9 minutes 33 seconds to do each mile, Males in the army must do a two mile run in 15 minutes 54 seconds, that is 7 minutes and 57 seconds for each mile.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    I would have to say train them but don't make them fight, most women act off there own emotions and in war you should have no emotions that would only get people killed along with killing yourself.

    * Now not all women are like this just the ones I have encountered.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinDeeMan View Post
    I would have to say train them but don't make them fight, most women act off there own emotions and in war you should have no emotions that would only get people killed along with killing yourself.

    * Now not all women are like this just the ones I have encountered.
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