View Poll Results: Should women be allowed to specialize as infantry

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  • Yes, and they should be integrated with the males

    101 57.71%
  • Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units

    16 9.14%
  • No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training

    33 18.86%
  • No, women should never serve in a role where they may encounter combat

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    There are different physical standards for men in the military based upon age and rank, but they complete the same physical training. Why shouldn't women be dealt with in the same way that men are?
    Because if you want to do the same job as a man, you should be able to pass the same physical testing. Otherwise you will ultimately fail. The last thing an operational combat unit needs is a weak link due to lower standards of physical readiness.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Because if you want to do the same job as a man, you should be able to pass the same physical testing. Otherwise you will ultimately fail. The last thing an operational combat unit needs is a weak link due to lower standards of physical readiness.
    Except that men aren't even held to the same standards with one another. So, if it were really a requirement of the job, no one over 24 would be serving in the infantry.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Females should not be in infantry, armor or artillery unless it is some kind of support role. So I guess I agree with you.
    Women are indeed not equal to men, and when it comes to important issues such as combat, we cannot base our judgment on the value of equality.
    Yet, they are indeed capable to some degree of combat, and there are many support roles in the army that can be manned by females just as males.
    Those support roles involve combat, but do not require the same physical effort a fully-combat infantry would require.

    On a side note, my own sister is currently an active combat-supporter in the northern part of the country.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Except that men aren't even held to the same standards with one another. So, if it were really a requirement of the job, no one over 24 would be serving in the infantry.
    And a female of the same age have lessoned standards. You are comparing apples to oranges.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    And a female of the same age have lessoned standards. You are comparing apples to oranges.
    So are you, dude. it's just the vagina that hangs you up.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    So are you, dude. it's just the vagina that hangs you up.
    You are not getting it. The male requirements are harder no matter what age compared to women.

    You have never served in the military have you?
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You are not getting it. The male requirements are harder no matter what age compared to women.

    You have never served in the military have you?
    I work in criminal justice, it's comparable. Most military personnel will tell you that the current physical requirements don't necessarily fit the job. I'm a fan of us restructuring requirements to fit the role that the person is going to be serving, and making them gender neutral.

    Does that work for you? Or are you still hung up on the ovaries?

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I work in criminal justice, it's comparable.
    I am an X LEO, no they are not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Most military personnel will tell you that the current physical requirements don't necessarily fit the job. I'm a fan of us restructuring requirements to fit the role that the person is going to be serving, and making them gender neutral.
    This post should fill you in...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058134837

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Does that work for you? Or are you still hung up on the ovaries?
    Ad-hom. Nice.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I am an X LEO, no they are not.



    This post should fill you in...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058134837
    The problem is that the post you referenced was debunked ages ago, by guys who served in the infantry.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I work in criminal justice, it's comparable.

    I could be wrong but I have never seen cops carry 249 SAW,m240s, a heavy ruck sack, rocket launchers or any other heavy equipment like that while traveling long distances on foot, nor have I seen cops take out criminals with m240s,249 SAWs,rocket launchers.The sole purpose of someone in a combat occupation is to kill. The sole purpose of a police officer is to uphold the law and act basically as crime historians.


    Most military personnel will tell you that the current physical requirements don't necessarily fit the job. I'm a fan of us restructuring requirements to fit the role that the person is going to be serving, and making them gender neutral.

    Does that work for you? Or are you still hung up on the ovaries?

    If you are going to be a solder then you should train like a solder and if you are going to be a marine you should train like a marine. Not well Bob wants to be a cook lets just send him to cooking school and thats it. Training standards should not be lowered just so someone can be a civilian in military clothing.
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