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  • No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    This is my default position also and it is feasible. Israel currently has a beta Infantry unit that is completely female. They're good to go.
    This would do away with much of the sexual tension problems. My only concern would continue to be that in any combat situation I've read that (particularly in the arab/middle east world) combatants are far more likely to choose to fight to the death rather than ever surrender to a female or female unit. Do you think that's a real concern and if it is should folks let it stop them from using female infantry for certain missions? Wasn't that the major reason Israel stopped using women in infantry?

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    Question Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Will even this kind of segregation be practical, or will that unit always be shielded from the brunt ?

    How will the all male unit stationed next to them in line of battle respond if they become pressed ?

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    This is my default position also and it is feasible. Israel currently has a beta Infantry unit that is completely female. They're good to go.
    Israel currently has the misfortune of an ongoing-- and apparently intractable-- war on their home front. It makes perfect sense for them to allow female infantry.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    My only concern would continue to be that in any combat situation I've read that (particularly in the arab/middle east world) combatants are far more likely to choose to fight to the death rather than ever surrender to a female or female unit.
    The solution is very simple then. No quarter. Kill them.

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Do you think that's a real concern and if it is should folks let it stop them from using female infantry for certain missions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Wasn't that the major reason Israel stopped using women in infantry?
    That was well before my time. Things have been incrementally changing over the years. As I've tried to explain, modern militaries fight jointly. The pace of modern warfare and the ever-increasing emphasis on technology (specialists) virtually ensure that females will participate in battle at some juncture. Be it as an F18 fighter pilot, an Apache helicopter pilot, firing missiles from a frigate, sniping, working with self-propelled ground guns, or lasing enemy targets right at the front line. Every soldier is an asset and the military must squeeze every iota of talent from its finite asset pool.

    Modern militaries no longer fight hand-to-hand in trenches. Killing zones are typically at a distance of hundreds of meters. As you can see with urban examples such as Fallujah and Gaza, a modern military will destroy the point infrastructure and greatly soften up the penetration lanes previous to the introduction of ground forces. Still, urban warfare is hellish. Be that as it may though, I see no reason at all why female ground units cannot be an effective and positive asset.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    The solution is very simple then. No quarter. Kill them.


    A corpse is a corpse. How it got that way is immaterial.


    That was well before my time. Things have been incrementally changing over the years. As I've tried to explain, modern militaries fight jointly. The pace of modern warfare and the ever-increasing emphasis on technology (specialists) virtually ensure that females will participate in battle at some juncture. Be it as an F18 fighter pilot, an Apache helicopter pilot, firing missiles from a frigate, sniping, working with self-propelled ground guns, or lasing enemy targets right at the front line. Every soldier is an asset and the military must squeeze every iota of talent from its finite asset pool.

    Modern militaries no longer fight hand-to-hand in trenches. Killing zones are typically at a distance of hundreds of meters. As you can see with urban examples such as Fallujah and Gaza, a modern military will destroy the point infrastructure and greatly soften up the penetration lanes previous to the introduction of ground forces. Still, urban warfare is hellish. Be that as it may though, I see no reason at all why female ground units cannot be an effective and positive asset.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    The solution is very simple then. No quarter. Kill them.
    Precisely why women SHOULD be in combat.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Israel currently has the misfortune of an ongoing-- and apparently intractable-- war on their home front. It makes perfect sense for them to allow female infantry.
    I made this point in the originating discussion thread. When its the survivial of your nation at stake, you need every person you've got, to send rounds downrange. As far as I am concerned, given the rapidly declining birthrates in Western cultures, we need all the women we can to stay out of harms way. So for the US currently, there is simply no need to put our future mothers on the firing line, to satiate some ideal of fairness to the sexes. I did a simple example in the other thread, regarding the logistics of a society that sent females to the fight and one that did not. Men are expendable, women are not.

    That being said, you need to balance the sustainability of your society against the threat of its destruction. When you lean more towards imminent destruction, everybody fights. When you are relatively safe, you look at continuing long term growth or sustainment.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Modern militaries no longer fight hand-to-hand in trenches.
    To a large extent very true. British forces [The Scots Guards] in the Falklands 1982 had to resort to using bayonets on the top of Mount Tumbledown and i have heard of unconfirmed reports of a little action at the sharp end in Afghanistan. But i agree trench warfare has declined.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Only once men and women are COMPLETELY equal in this country.

    It will never happen though. If not because of men, then because of women.
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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    I would love to specialize in infantry
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