Yes, and they should be integrated with the males
Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units
No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training
No, women should never serve in a role where they may encounter combat
There is a place for women in combat arms, you cannot intelligently deny this. Integrating them with males is a bad idea, I'll agree with that. But I think this discussion is fully inclusive of the capability of women to be warfighters.
To this end, nobody has proven they are incapable. To suggest this is sheer folly as there is no precedent on the matter. Only opinion.
And to clarify, I should not have chosen the answer I did in the poll because it doesn't actually reflect my sentiment on the matter. As my first post stated, I think integration is a bad idea. An all female infantry unit is feasible.
Well, how about you explain it to me. I have seen quite a bit of death, and most of it is completely useless.
We may want to think that death hold meaning, but the reality in war is often no more than looking the wrong way and getting shot as a result. A dead body accomplished nothing.
In war, the principals that are defined are defined by the leaders of the victor not by the soldiers on the battlefield. Ergo, we must prepare our forces properly to accomplish that victory as quickly as possible.
Death's only meaning in war is through victory or defeat. Tremendous acts of courage and cowardice show wars humanity even the face of horror, but the individual acts are only significant in the larger struggle to achieve victory.
So please, explain to me how death alone defends those principals? Explain it when less than 1% of our society is currently fighting in the two wars our society committed us to? (Three is you count the clandestine War in Terror).
There are many ways to defend liberty, but dying isn't a terribly effective method.
Last edited by Voidwar; 05-27-09 at 06:19 PM.
A lot of jobs that are worth doing involve the risk of death.
IF I fall on a grenade to keep it from killing my children, was my death worthwhile? IF I fall on a grenade to keep it from injuring my co-workers, parents, friends, or my significant other, is that death worthwhile?
Death means what we think it means, nothing more, and nothing less.
I've seen a lot of senseless death in the past 19 years. Kids shooting kids for no apparent reason.
But, I've also seen a lot of people RISK death to save other people, sometimes while being injured themselves. And that does, in fact, seem worthwhile to me.
Why should women be judged less capable or worthy of self-sacrifice?
Tell me, if a woman carries a pregnancy to term, but refuses chemotherapy because it might harm her infant, and then succumbs to cancer, isn't she still a hero? Does her death mean nothing?