View Poll Results: Should women be allowed to specialize as infantry

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  • Yes, and they should be integrated with the males

    101 57.71%
  • Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units

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  • No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training

    33 18.86%
  • No, women should never serve in a role where they may encounter combat

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It isn't in a woman's nature to be a dirty, nasty killer.
    somebody has to say it

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    18.5 million abortions this year so far
    I would say women are pretty proficient at killiing

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Thumbs down Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    somebody has to say it
    Nowhere near true.

    I think anyone interested in this thread could have done just fine without your off topic pro-lifer commercial.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Going on the occasional combat patrol doesn't make one an infantryman.
    Occassional huh? Let's leave that aside for a moment. Here a bit of info for you: MP units(which ARE co-ed BTW) have seen more combat and ieds than any other type of unit in Iraq. And the majority of women in those units are performing just fine.

    BTW, your complete lack of firsthand knowledge is showing.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    Nowhere near true.

    I think anyone interested in this thread could have done just fine without your off topic pro-lifer commercial.
    deny all you want, it shows women are more than capable of killing
    and it turns out they are doing it every day on a massive scale.
    Women put men to shame when it comes to killing

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    deny all you want, it shows women are more than capable of killing
    and it turns out they are doing it every day on a massive scale.
    Women put men to shame when it comes to killing
    We really are brutal. The wide-eyed delicateness is just an act.

    Just think of us as Black widows, with better legs.

    Ooops...dammit. Just gave away an important female secret.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    People aren't meant to be autonomous. And the vast majority of people, if they are not given explicit orders about where to go and what to do, make monumentally short-sighted and stupid decisions that not only waste and ruin their own lives, they harm everyone around them and society as a whole. Luckily, the vast majority of people also instinctually defer to anyone that appears capable of giving them direction.

    Nearly all human misery can be attributed to human beings acting without firm leadership-- in most cases, people are safer, healthier, and happier under the worst kinds of tyranny than they are under any kind of anarchy.

    And as much as I respect women, their intellect and their strength and their bravery, they are too valuable to be allowed to throw themselves upon grenades to protect men. Good men recognize this subconsciously, even if they support "equality" and womens' right to stand and die for their country.
    Are we allowed to throw ourselves on a grenade to protect our children? How about an idea (life, liberty, pursuit of happiness)? What about our parents? Our country?

    I would counter that these things are too valuable NOT to allow women the option of dying to defend them.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by rsay33 View Post
    Occassional huh? Let's leave that aside for a moment. Here a bit of info for you: MP units(which ARE co-ed BTW) have seen more combat and ieds than any other type of unit in Iraq. And the majority of women in those units are performing just fine.

    BTW, your complete lack of firsthand knowledge is showing.
    Oh really?

    Well, terestingly enough, when the stuff got heavy, I don't recall too many MP units going into say .... Fallujha?

    The reality of non-linear wars like counter-insurgencies is that all units are attacked, and Jessica Lynch is a perfect example of why women and nominally rear echelon troops need combat training.

    Getting hit by an IED is not the same thing as a ground assault against a dug in enemy. Do not get me wrong, the MP's have brought spectacular benefits to the battlefield, particularly is helping us teach security and policing to the locals who must do the job. I have tremendous respect for the job of policemen after discovering just how difficult it is.

    It is however, not the same job as the infantry. The Military Police do not exist primarily to close with and destroy the enemy. They do not exist, and are not trained, to bring battlefield mutipliers into the fray to overwhelm and absolutely crush an enemy.

    Our infantrymen have had to become much more like policemen to be successful in counter-insurgency, but it is still the combat forces that must engage in the hard fighting as necessary in places like Baqubah, Mosul, Baghdad, and the cave hopping and ambushed in the mountains of Afghanistan.

    This isn't about ability, but effect on the ability of a force to do its required mission.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by rsay33 View Post
    Occassional huh? Let's leave that aside for a moment. Here a bit of info for you: MP units(which ARE co-ed BTW) have seen more combat and ieds than any other type of unit in Iraq. And the majority of women in those units are performing just fine.
    Citation. Also, define "combat".

    BTW, your complete lack of firsthand knowledge is showing.
    Dude, I was a grunt.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Are we allowed to throw ourselves on a grenade to protect our children? How about an idea (life, liberty, pursuit of happiness)? What about our parents? Our country?

    I would counter that these things are too valuable NOT to allow women the option of dying to defend them.
    you just hush now breeder

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    you just hush now breeder
    Stupid menz only want me for my uterus.

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