View Poll Results: Should women be allowed to specialize as infantry

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  • Yes, and they should be integrated with the males

    101 57.71%
  • Yes, but keep their units seperate from male units

    16 9.14%
  • No, but women should be given some basic infantry skills beyond basic training

    33 18.86%
  • No, women should never serve in a role where they may encounter combat

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That's okay, sweetie. I think everyone's clear on what you've contributed here.

    Aye, a lesson for you on what is and isn't ad hominem, in addition to salient commentary on the topic at hand and the logical fallacies of others.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I want to be clear with the question here. I am asking if you think females should be allowed to serve as infantrymen(persons?) in the military.
    Absolutely not. I have no doubt that there are many women perfectly qualified to serve as infantry, and I applaud the courage and conviction that drives them to want to, but healthy young women are needed at home-- and any society that sends young women to die in foreign lands to protect young men at home has got its priorities screwed up and probably isn't much longer for this world.

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    That means, they are not a cook or aircraft mechanic who has some basic infantry skills gleaned from either boot camp, or extra infantry training like the Marines put all personnel though.
    I'm a big believer in the notion that everyone ought to have basic infantry training-- and that applies to women, too. Personally, I think we ought to provide as much combat training for our citizens as they're willing to put up with. And there's no reason to think that women are any less qualified to sling a rifle in defense of their home than men.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    Aye, a lesson for you on what is and isn't ad hominem, in addition to salient commentary on the topic at hand and the logical fallacies of others.
    It's sweet how you think that.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You mean the idea that women are delicate little flowers who are unsuited to violence? Heh.
    When wounded and dying on Afghani plains
    And the women come out to cut up what remains
    Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
    And to your God a soldier.


    That's Kipling. Women are wonderfully suited to violence. They're just needed far more elsewhere.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I cannot predict the future. I do not know if such would happen or not. I do believe that an imagined deterrent should not hold us up from doing the right thing.
    So, these things are imagined? They do not happen now?

    19 year old men and women do not engage in this sort of behavior, so we should ignore it?

    Ar eyou willing to lead infantry units into battle and face the consequences if these things come into play during a battle? Are you willing to confront the familes of the men and women who may potentially die when these 'imagined' deterrents pop up?

    Are you willing to control the men of a unit and prevent atrocity the first time a female soldier in found raped? What do you think would have happened if those had been young women pulled off street corners in Iraq instead of young men?

    Are you truly willing to face these things? Battle is not a kind or friendly activity and weaknesses and mistakes are exploited with absolute ruthlessness. Simply dismissing things because you do not want to acknowledge them does not mean that your enemy will ignore them in battle.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Absolutely not. I have no doubt that there are many women perfectly qualified to serve as infantry, and I applaud the courage and conviction that drives them to want to, but healthy young women are needed at home-- and any society that sends young women to die in foreign lands to protect young men at home has got its priorities screwed up and probably isn't much longer for this world.
    Read the Saga of Hervor.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by gree0232 View Post
    So, these things are imagined? They do not happen now?

    19 year old men and women do not engage in this sort of behavior, so we should ignore it?

    Ar eyou willing to lead infantry units into battle and face the consequences if these things come into play during a battle? Are you willing to confront the familes of the men and women who may potentially die when these 'imagined' deterrents pop up?

    Are you willing to control the men of a unit and prevent atrocity the first time a female soldier in found raped? What do you think would have happened if those had been young women pulled off street corners in Iraq instead of young men?

    Are you truly willing to face these things? Battle is not a kind or friendly activity and weaknesses and mistakes are exploited with absolute ruthlessness. Simply dismissing things because you do not want to acknowledge them does not mean that your enemy will ignore them in battle.

    It can be controlled. That is what NJP is for. By the way, you underestimate our military. They are better than you think.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    That's Kipling. Women are wonderfully suited to violence. They're just needed far more elsewhere.
    Women are autonomous beings who are entitled to make the call of where they are needed the most FOR THEMSELVES.

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You mean the idea that women are delicate little flowers who are unsuited to violence? Heh.
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlYJbEd0LVk]YouTube - Female submissions and knockouts[/ame]
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    in addition to salient commentary on the topic at hand and the logical fallacies of others.
    Salient?
    *insert profound statement here*

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