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Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

Should women be allowed to specialize as infantry


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Support is plenty enough risk for him.
Plus he'll get out with a skill he can actually put to use in the civilian world.

We know from Iraq that supply convoy's were attacked and people killed everyday.

Why should't someone get training they can use when they get out of the military? They are risking their lives aren't they.

A lot of people like my x husband stayed in the military when they wanted to get out but the rate they were in couldn't be transfered to a job in the civilian sector. We knew quite a few people in that situation.

I have to get a good laugh at people sitting home nice and safe telling people who are actually doing someting for their country how they should risk their lives. I guess Saturday night football isn't enough action for them.
 
I did not deny that.
I just pointed out at the obvious fact that people who serve at the front-lines are the people who give the most.

And I just pointed out that the people that serve on the front lines are not all infantry.
 
Women may not have the physical attributes of men but that doesn't make them without power and weak mentaly and physicaly. I think you have some pretty negative preconceived ideas about women

I don't think you have any idea of what women are capable of. You are also trying to say your opinions are fact when they are not. So don't try to deny that.

Just because women cannot hack the infantry that makes them week and powerless mentally and physicaly by your standards. :rofl

No,,,I've a realistic attitiude about women... In a Combat Zone. :lol: Be Honest A/L,,, They're Weak, compared to Men.:roll True?
 
Support is plenty enough risk for him.
Plus he'll get out with a skill he can actually put to use in the civilian world.

This is misleading. Infantry does learn any number of skills usefull in the real world.
 
We know from Iraq that supply convoy's were attacked and people killed everyday.

Why should't someone get training they can use when they get out of the military? They are risking their lives aren't they.

I have no idea what you're talking about, and I devoutly hope my son's life will never be at any risk at all, although I'm not an idiot and I know that's not likely.
But there's no glory in it, as far as I'm concerned.
I haven't really gotten to the "I'm proud of my teenage son for risking his life for his country" point yet, although maybe I will eventually.
I'll no doubt force myself to believe whatever I have to believe in order to endure this.
I'm aware that people of every MOS are killed, even those in non-combat positions. If they ever leave base, they're at risk. Roadside bombs don't discriminate.
 
No,,,I've a realistic attitiude about women... In a Combat Zone. :lol: Be Honest A/L,,, They're Weak, compared to Men.:roll True?

I don't think you ment to but you let you preconcieved ideas of women come out when you stated they were weak mentally and physically. Mentality has nothing to do with physical attributes.
 
Women may not have the physical attributes of men but that doesn't make them without power and weak mentaly and physicaly. I think you have some pretty negative preconceived ideas about women

I don't think you have any idea of what women are capable of. You are also trying to say your opinions are fact when they are not. So don't try to deny that.

Just because women cannot hack the infantry that makes them week and powerless mentally and physicaly by your standards. :rofl

"Preconcieved",,,How about based on Reality?:lol: Females aren't worth a damm in physical Combat. :lol: Try to be honest.:roll:
 
I have no idea what you're talking about, and I devoutly hope my son's life will never be at any risk at all, although I'm not an idiot and I know that's not likely.
But there's no glory in it, as far as I'm concerned.
I haven't really gotten to the "I'm proud of my teenage son for risking his life for his country" point yet, although maybe I will eventually.
I'll no doubt force myself to believe whatever I have to believe in order to endure this.
I'm aware that people of every MOS are killed, even those in non-combat positions. If they ever leave base, they're at risk. Roadside bombs don't discriminate.[/QUOTE

I was making the statement that you don't have to be in the infantry to be shot at. During the Iraq war many people in convoys got killed.

I only hope your son has a job where he would not have to face being shot at. My grandson is in the Air Force so I don't worry to much but like you said you never know.

I know first hand what it is to worry about a loved one who could be killed in a war.
 
"Preconcieved",,,How about based on Reality?:lol: Females aren't worth a damm in physical Combat. :lol: Try to be honest.:roll:

I agree with you about women in combat not being able to keep up. What I didn't agree with is your statement that women are weak mentally and physically. Just because you can't hack it physicaly doesn't mean you are weak mentally.

So you try and be honest and own up to what you posted.
 
I agree with you about women in combat not being able to keep up. What I didn't agree with is your statement that women are weak mentally and physically. Just because you can't hack it physicaly doesn't mean you are weak mentally.

So you try and be honest and own up to what you posted.

I've not a doubt that Women have a few Mental skills far above most Men.:oops: However,,, we're talking about Combat. A Woman has NO place on the Front Line... True?
 
No,,,I've a realistic attitiude about women... In a Combat Zone. :lol: Be Honest A/L,,, They're Weak, compared to Men.:roll True?

Weak? No. Less over all muscular strength? In many cases. That does not however equal weakness. I know plenty of scrawny assed men who served in the military, and I've known some women who could kick their ass.

You are allowing your chauvinistic mindset to dictate your words. Serving in an infantry unit is not primarily about physical strength. There is no need for super men. I served in an infantry unit and I was not overly muscular. Some men can carry more than others. Some women can carry more than some men.

Sex is irrelevant. Capability is what is important.

You would do well to refrain from such ignorant commentary.
 

I've not a doubt that Women have a few Mental skills far above most Men.:oops: However,,, we're talking about Combat. A Woman has NO place on the Front Line... True?

Not true.




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"Preconcieved",,,How about based on Reality?:lol: Females aren't worth a damm in physical Combat. :lol: Try to be honest.:roll:

How would you even know this? When was the last time you actually served with females in "physical combat?" (as if there is non-physical combat)

You ever fought a female who was thoroughly trained in kick boxing and BJJ? And what part of the female anatomy is it that makes them poor shots?

You need to do some introspection.
 
This is misleading. Infantry does learn any number of skills usefull in the real world.

My primary MOS was infantry. I got very little out of that MOS that was practical in the civilian world. I was pretty good at marching with a ruck, shooting a number of weapons, communicating on the radio, rappelling, mopping and buffing floors, cleaning latrines, taking orders, MOUT and CQB, marching with a ruck, mopping and buffing floors, marching with a ruck, taking orders.

Wait.

Anyway, there is really very little from the infantry MOS that translates into the civilian world. When I went to MP school it was a little better.
 
My primary MOS was infantry. I got very little out of that MOS that was practical in the civilian world. I was pretty good at marching with a ruck, shooting a number of weapons, communicating on the radio, rappelling, mopping and buffing floors, cleaning latrines, taking orders, MOUT and CQB, marching with a ruck, mopping and buffing floors, marching with a ruck, taking orders.

Wait.

Anyway, there is really very little from the infantry MOS that translates into the civilian world. When I went to MP school it was a little better.

Geez, I got the list when I got out. Experienced in teamwork under stressful situations is just one example of a skill that translates directly as a job skill. There are technical skills, and there are general skills. Infantry is a great place for those general skills, even moreso than most of the military. While I do not work in the field I worked in when in the navy, I still learned alot that simply from being in the service that relates to my job.
 

I've not a doubt that Women have a few Mental skills far above most Men.:oops: However,,, we're talking about Combat. A Woman has NO place on the Front Line... True?

This is just so wrong.

Many women serve as combat pilots etc. on the front lines, and they are good at it. No physical weakness and damn certain no mental weakness.

Just because they have strength in different area's it does not make them weak in combat.

I do not think a female should be in combat arms as in infantry, artillery or armor, but it is because they have a different skill set, not a weakness.
 
Geez, I got the list when I got out. Experienced in teamwork under stressful situations is just one example of a skill that translates directly as a job skill. There are technical skills, and there are general skills. Infantry is a great place for those general skills, even moreso than most of the military. While I do not work in the field I worked in when in the navy, I still learned alot that simply from being in the service that relates to my job.

Well come on now, that's the same crap the recruiter tells you though. "These are the skills employers are looking for!" Hogwash. Those don't really translate into a "skill." Those are more like qualities you have developed, good under pressure. A skill would be some proficiency in diesel engine repair, linguistics, aircraft maintenance, or something in the medical field.

Punctuality, discipline, good under stress, quick thinking...those aren't actual skills that will land you a career. They will make you better at whatever you choose to do but you can't market that stuff.
 
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Every person in the military is doing a service to their country and the rest of us. Since when do we rate who is a better by the job they do. The guys on the front lines couldn't even do their jobs witout back up from everyone else, from what they eat to what they wear to thier ammunition someone has to supply them. Who comes in a rescues them when they are wounded and risks thier lives doing so? Our military are a team all working together and no one better or more important then someone else. Without all working together thier would be no infantry.

Some sacrifice more than others, it's just a fact. No need to get all butt-hurt over it.
 
Weak? No. Less over all muscular strength? In many cases. That does not however equal weakness. I know plenty of scrawny assed men who served in the military, and I've known some women who could kick their ass.

You are allowing your chauvinistic mindset to dictate your words. Serving in an infantry unit is not primarily about physical strength. There is no need for super men. I served in an infantry unit and I was not overly muscular. Some men can carry more than others. Some women can carry more than some men.

Sex is irrelevant. Capability is what is important.

You would do well to refrain from such ignorant commentary.

Thanks so much you stated the truth. I gave up responding to someone who is so closed minded with so many preconcieved ideas about women's abilities.

Really sometimes I wonder if some people here even have mothers, daughters, wives and girlfriends in their lives because they haven't a clue about where women are coming from.
 
I have no idea what you're talking about, and I devoutly hope my son's life will never be at any risk at all, although I'm not an idiot and I know that's not likely.
But there's no glory in it, as far as I'm concerned.
I haven't really gotten to the "I'm proud of my teenage son for risking his life for his country" point yet, although maybe I will eventually.
I'll no doubt force myself to believe whatever I have to believe in order to endure this.
I'm aware that people of every MOS are killed, even those in non-combat positions. If they ever leave base, they're at risk. Roadside bombs don't discriminate.

Just tell him to pick administration. Even IF they go to Iraq or Afghanistan they NEVER leave the wire.
 
The purpose of the infantry-- of the military in general-- is to keep their soldiers away from our women. We can dress it up however we like, as sovereignty, border control, or protecting our national interests, but what it boils down to is protection of our women and children.

Putting women, especially women of military age, into the front lines of combat directly contradicts the purpose of the military.

By all means, they should be allowed to have military careers should they wish them. Certainly, they should be given infantry training in case our military fails and the teeming hordes follow them home. But putting them in the meat grinder and allowing them to be killed alongside the men is foolish, and toxic, and suicidal.
 
Some sacrifice more than others, it's just a fact. No need to get all butt-hurt over it.

Hehehehe, he said "butt-hurt" Mhehehehe. :lol:

Sorry had an 80's Beavis and Butthead moment.
 
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The purpose of the infantry-- of the military in general-- is to keep their soldiers away from our women. We can dress it up however we like, as sovereignty, border control, or protecting our national interests, but what it boils down to is protection of our women and children.

Putting women, especially women of military age, into the front lines of combat directly contradicts the purpose of the military.

By all means, they should be allowed to have military careers should they wish them. Certainly, they should be given infantry training in case our military fails and the teeming hordes follow them home. But putting them in the meat grinder and allowing them to be killed alongside the men is foolish, and toxic, and suicidal.

The purpose of the infantry and the military in general is to keep solders away from our women. :rofl:lol::2razz: That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. I can't stop laughing.
 
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